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谢晖说3后卫是落后的阵型,结果最近意甲很给面子的流行起3后卫
现在意甲N多队都改打3后卫了,上次利物浦好像都打3后卫了,还赢了曼联晖帝真的好牛
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关键看你是什么人员,352,343一样可以是防反机器
那不勒斯,乌迪内斯的水准踢不了?还要参考4年1次的的战术?这几轮意甲一半球队在打3后卫怎么了?战绩还有提高那
对啊,我只针对3后卫是落后战术一说
我不说了3后卫也可以是防反机器了
没有能力打,不代表战术是落后,OK?你有和或者现在的马乔,这样的球员一样是出色的战术
对不起,落后和好是2个概念,我从没说过3后卫比4后卫好,我只认为不论3后卫,4后卫,只有适合的球员,没有落后的战术
恩,3后卫不会是主流,但也不会消亡
错了,是完整发挥出了超强球员的超强能力
因为边路有通吃1条边的球员,所以双后腰可以并排在中路,可以更好的作为中卫之前作为屏障,压缩中路的空间
那为什么豪门的没打赢不是豪门的,球员能力比他们差的,又用落后战术的那?豪门球员能力强,不代表他们适合352或343吧?而且也有教练喜好和思路的不同吧。而且用落后战术的去年进球数可以并列在意甲第一。
只有适合的球员。。。,没有落后的战术。
In defence of three men - An analysis of Serie A's latest tactical shift
Mina Rzouki
Tuesday 24 January 2012
For Italians, football is considered to be an
art form and one that is worthy of profound thought and intelligent
debate. Each detail is studied and discussed meticulously as Coaches
revel in the complexities of the sport, hoping to offer a new way of
thinking, an altered formation or a progressive thought that would lead
their respective club to victory. As such, calcio naturally finds itself
in a perpetual state of development with new patterns of play always
emerging and evolving.
With Arrigo Sacchi’s Milan bulldozing its way through Europe with its
classic 4-4-2 tactically astute and technically proficient side, the
three-man defence had been somewhat cast aside for well over a decade.
Many argued that playing with three at the back required exemplary
fitness levels and was reliant on the chemistry and understanding
between players meaning it could take years to perfect. Secondly, it
appeared to encourage athletic performances instead of skilled
technique.
Europe’s greatest leagues had all but entirely dismissed the thought of
playing with only three in defence. However, this weekend we saw nine
teams deploy a three-man back-line in Serie A confirming a new tactical
The 3-5-2 formation and its many variants was never quite allowed to die
in the Italian league as certain Coaches were reluctant to turn their
back to a style of play they felt offered many advantages.
Coaches such as Alberto Zaccheroni (pictured above) were devoted to
playing a 3-4-3 formation and captivated audiences with an attractive
brand of football throughout the late 1990s. Even the likes of Acireale
in Serie C2 deployed a 3-5-2 shape in the early 2000s under a certain
young Coach by the name of Walter Mazzarri.
Nonetheless teams such as Zaccheroni’s Udinese and Mazzarri’s Acireale
were thought to be an anomaly. Silvio Berlusconi simply despised the
thought of playing with only three at the back and after arguing with
Zaccheroni one too many times, the Coach was eventually replaced by
Cesare Maldini. Corriere della Sera wrote at the time that Berlusconi dreamt of a four-man back-line and everyone joked about ‘getting back to catenaccio’.
When Palermo’s volcanic President sought to play with a three-man
back-line last season to improve the defence, it came as no surprise
that he chose to replace Delio Rossi with Serse Cosmi – an expert in the
matter. Mediagol in Italy immediately published a critical
report in which they pointed out that Europe’s top four leagues,
excluding Italy, still relied on playing with four at the back as that ‘obviously’
offered the squad balance. Their analysis showed that 38% of those top
European teams still favoured a traditional 4-4-2 set-up, 35% preferred
the 4-2-3-1 shape and 8% played with a 4-3-3 formation.
Discussing Udinese and Napoli’s excellent performances last season, they
reasoned that their shape was unlikely to work in Europe and that one
could hardly forget Italy’s poor showing in the Champions League.
The fact of the matter is, the Partenopei are currently enjoying great
success in Europe and Serie A’s recent shift in tactics this season is
largely down to Udinese and Napoli’s remarkable victories.
For the Azzurri, they have depended on the three-man back-line since
Giampiero Ventura. Out of necessity rather than tactical preference,
Ventura’s successor Edy Reja was forced to remain faithful to the 3-5-2
shape due to the fact the squad lacked a defensive regista and the
defence required a great deal of protection. His tactics allowed the
team to climb to the upper echolons of Italian football.
Now under Mazzarri, Napoli have refined their football and the Coach
uses the shape to unleash the speed of his central creative figure,
Ezequiel Lavezzi and his two wing-backs to play an effective form of
counter-attacking football.
Udinese tell a similar story. Having never quite recovered from the
success they tasted under Zaccheroni and his infamous 3-4-3 shape, they
demanded that Francesco Guidolin continue down that very path. Curiosity
prevailed and their new Coach agreed and as he put it, ‘fell in love’
with the formation. However, Udinese’s tactics differ slightly to those
of Napoli’s as they rarely play with five at the back when defending
and opt to force their central midfielders to close down space when not
in possession whilst their wing-backs are tasked with providing Di
Natale and co. with offensive support.
It seems most clubs in Italy now wish to emulate their success. In
addition to the nine teams that deployed a three-man back-line over the
weekend, several others such as Siena and Juve have also experimented
with the idea.
Clubs such as Catania have toyed with the formation due to absences at
the back whilst Parma’s new Coach Roberto Donadoni hopes to make use of
his defenders’ previous experience with the tactics, even going as far
as blocking Fabiano Santacroce’s sale.
Their 3-1 win over Siena sparked comments from admirers including
ex-Parma Coach and once-upon-a-time trusted assistant of Sacchi, Pietro
"Gedeone" Carmignani. “Donadoni demonstrated clever tactics. The change to a 3-4-3 formation has worked in every section of the squad.”
Having conceded two goals a game for four weeks in a row, Stefano
Pioli’s Bologna also converted to the new tactical ideology. Their 3-5-2
formation allows them to play both Gaby Mudingayi and Diego Perez
alongside one another in the middle and together they guard the defence,
win back the ball and press intensely to stifle opponents. Is it any
wonder they have only conceded one goal in three games?
Whilst some may deem the three-man back-line as an ultra defensive
tactic, others have turned to the formation in hopes of unleashing their
attack. With the likes of Carlo Ancelotti in charge in Milan, Calcio,
for much of the past decade, has seemingly been enchanted by narrow play
and over reliant on the use of a trequartista. As such, it was only
natural that teams such as Napoli, Udinese and Gian Piero Gasperini’s
Genoa - ones that effectively played with width - encountered success
largely due to the space they were afforded on the wings.
Coach Donadoni hopes the 3-4-3 shape will unleash his attack’s pace and
unpredictability whilst Udinese scored 65 goals using a 3-5-2 formation
last season – just as many as Scudetto winners Milan.
However, it is important to note that playing with only three at the
back is unlikely to solve certain clubs’ problems. Rossi hoped a
tactical switch would serve to help his ailing Fiorentina side. Whilst
their initial match proved it to be a formation that increased fluidity,
the Viola are still struggling having only won one of their last four
matches. Bad luck and the lethargic attitude of certain players left the
side incapable of imposing their own game much to everyone’s dismay.
The 3-5-2 or its many variations including the 3-4-3 shape is one that
requires both time and a squad capable of playing with pace and
intensity. Whilst certain squads have exploited the defensive solidity
it offers, others have taken advantage of the attacking options it gives
to the forward players.
For several sides such as Fiorentina, playing a three-man back-line may
prove to be nothing more than a simple experiment. However, for the
likes of Bologna, it may well the start of something special. It remains
to be seen whether it is a formation that will last the distance and
only Napoli can prove it deserves to be considered by Europe’s greatest.
搞了半天,你说的3后卫是10年的3后卫战术。。。,我说的是现在的3后卫的战术,看看14楼说的先
其实我也不大喜欢3后卫战术,只是不觉的说它落后是不对的,这种防反机器一样的战术,对弱队效果不好,但是面对强队很有效
修正一下上面,是只是觉得说3后卫是落后的战术是不对的
我觉的我转的这篇文章对目前意甲很多球队转型打3后卫的评价挺好挺准确的
从你41楼说的,我觉的你说的是10年前的3后卫战术,我说的3后卫战术是为了加强了防守的层次性,2条边也不是轻易就压上的,是一种防反战术
今天尤文居然没赢小斑马我好意外啊,你看了伐?
最后变5后卫又怎么样那?只要防反时有速度一样有威胁,2边反击时上的去就行,反正也就几脚就到对方门前了,3后卫打的好的球队,攻防转换速度很快的,和,防守都很好的。的4后卫失球也和他们差不多啊。的4后卫更别谈了。你当03年打的352啊。。。。,我都觉的其实你和我说的是2个话题。。。。。
困高了,88,以后有机会再聊吧,观点不同挺好的,擦的出火花
轻易出去和很少出去一样?轻易出去是指有反击机会时才出去,很少出去是指很少参与进攻,我说轻易出去是意思他们出击时机是很有选择性的,532纯防守,352是根据场面选择攻守,不然这些评论员早写意甲流行改打5后卫而不是改打3后卫了,建仪你去看看或的比赛就知道他们是532还是352了
我这么和你说吧,我只看意甲的,今年比赛整场我看了不少于10场,同样。最近我主要看和。防守时当然是排的5后卫啊,大哥。。。。。,进攻时难道和这2个翼卫不插上助攻的吗?但是你们打的是361,难道你可以说你们打的是541吗?问问你们的吧主你们是打3后卫还是5后卫,看看你们吧主如何回答你。。。。另外我对谢说是德丙根本没意见,因为我一直都认为申花水平是德丙,在吧里也是这么说的,只是觉的他迷信德国迷的过份了,把德乙吹的神一样,还什么也就德乙保级,除了个别几个,大部份国脚能够踢上德乙就很开心了,作为申花球员,何必去这么贬低申花那,说什么德乙能保级你来找我,何必那
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这是本轮乌鸡的排阵
我个人觉的现在的国家队参考价值不大的,现在的国家队除了豪门级,大部份水平还不如我说的,和。意甲战术多变,3后卫在意甲从来就没消失过,一直有球队打的,但英超我看全是442,这和教练习惯和思路有关系吧现在的主力右后卫马乔,很多人还觉的他平时踢343,不适应国家队的4后卫唉。。。
你的理解和我不同,国家队只是带有国家荣誉的重要比赛,水平和现在以世界各国国脚球员组成的强大俱乐部比并无高明之处。我反过来说,目前上一轮9支打3后卫的意甲球队的球员分别如果正好来自一个国家,又全参加了,能否证明3后卫和4后卫战术一样主流了那?而且不主流不代表落后,对3后卫我还是那句话,只有合适的球员,没有落后的战术。
你意思不是洛?所以我写的好像,因为那球我就看了个开场排阵表,显示的3后卫,中间我瞄过几眼打的我看和451一样。开场时我也觉的有点怪。因为在我印象里英超全是442,何况那个教练
我和你的区别是打的队多与少不是我判断他落不落后的标准,就算打的队比442多了,也不代表442落后了
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