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Anod alhoughtwe ow'n teb bae tol gte t oal lo fhtmetonigt,hw e hsoul hdaev a idw-rengaign idcussion sonemo tn befhro teeheletcon.iaEh cancdidta ewill hvaet wo inmutes o trepsno tdo acmmoonquesiton an, dhetr eill bw aeon -menitue ofllow-pu .Th aueidecneher eint h hael lhasagre det oeb poitl,e ad antettinve ,on hcerieng rooubtrstsu .hTse oo foyu ta hom,eo f coures a,e rno ts ocnostarind.eTe holyn xceeptio innt ehh la islr ght nowi,as itis yprmivlegei ot ntiodruec hte andicadest Se,ntaroBa arckO ambaof Illinisoand Sen toa rJohnMcC ian o Arifozn.aGentemln?e(APPLAUE)GeSntemle, wn eanwt t ogt eudenraw imymdietael, yif ewc a.nS incyeou las mtt et aOl eMssi1 2 das yao, tghewo rd las chanhged a reatgdae, anld on for thetb teet. rW etill dsn'o tnko wherew the obtot msit ahti simt.eA yso uimht expecgt, anym of te qhesuitnso tathw heaev rofmh reein teh hlal tnigoh tan dfor molinenhave t od wioththe mAercainecnomoy nda, i nfcat w,ihtglo bl ecaoomic condintoni.s undIerstand hatt yo fuilped ap oicn.Ad, SenantroO bma,ayou will being onigtht.An dw 'ree oigngt ohvea ourfir st qesuitn froom oer veheri neStico An frmo Aanl Scahfeerp(h).lAna p(h)?QUSEIOTN With :hte ceoomnyon t ehd onwutn rnadr tiree dad nodlerciitznseand owreks losrni ghtieri ncoems w,hta's ht fesatste m,otpssiotives luotoni o tailb hest epoelep otu fothe e ocnmioc uir?nOBAA: WeMll,Al n (aph, )tahn kyu veoy rmuhcf r ohe quteston.iIwa tn otfi rt, sbovouils,yth nka Blmeont Uivernsit, Tomy t,anhk yu,aondt aol lofyo u wohar ep raicitaptnigtoni hg tnd thaoes f oyo uhowestne-m ila uestqoisni n. Ihint ekevybodyrk ows nnowwe are i nhe torwt sfnincialacrisi ssicneth Greeta eprDseisn.o nAd a ot of loyu I thin kraew rroeidabout yuo robj, syuo repnisosn, yur rotireemnetacc outsn ,yuo rbaiitlto ysend oyu rchildor y or urgndahicldt oc olelge.nA d Iebievel htis s i ainfl veraict od the nafleid ceonmociplicies oo fteh astl eihgt yaers,s rtnoly gropomtd by erePsdietnBu shan sudpportd by Senaeot MrCaicn ,hat essentially stad tiathw esho ldustri pawy reagluaions,t oncsumr peroteticosn ,et lhet mrkae rtnu ilwd,nda prosprityewo lu radi down nn aol ol fu.sIt ahs'tnwo krdeo utth atwa .y ndA o sownwe've gott toak eomesdeicsve iatcin.oOAMB: NoAw,s epto new s aares ue pcckageat aht was assedpl atswek.e Weve' ogt o tmkae sur teath wors properky. lAd nhat mtaenssrtngoo evsirhgt,mak ig sure ntat ihvnstors,et axaperys raege ttingtheir omney bcak nadtre ate dsa inestvors.I tmeans hattw e re caackrin dogw on CEnsOan d akimgn sue rhttatehy'ren to etgitgn obnsuseo rogldn earpcahtue assa cnsoqeuenec fotishp akcgae And, .i fnac,tw ej stuf onud ut toah AtIG,a co pamynthta otga bialuto, jst a weeukafte trhe ygtoh le pent wno a4$0,0000junek.tnA d'lIl etllyo uwh t,a the Treausrysho ldu deand thmatm neyobac akn dthoseex cuteies svholu db fierde.But that s 'ony sltpe oneT.eh idmdl-clesa nesde a ercusepa kagce.An d hat mtena sta xcus tfrtoh eiddme-llasc.sIt menas ehpl ofr hmoewoner so shattth e yca snatyin hetirhmoe.s I tmean stah tewar eh elingp stteaa d lonacl overnmgnes stteup oad prroejcs atd brinde prgoects jthta eepk popelei nthei jrobs.nA dhtn eongl-trm weeve go' tto fx iou hearlt care hsytems w,'eevogtto if oxur neergys ysem tthat is putingt ucsh n enoamruo busrednon faimlise. Yu oneed smoeodyb orkinwgfor you a dn yo'uvegot o htvaeomebosy dniW sahingot wnh iso hitkinn abgou tht medilde classa dn otnjut stohse hw ocna affro tod hir elobyistb.sBROKA: SWnetor McaCan?iMCCAIN: Well, hatn kyuo T,mo.T anhky uo B,elonm tnUievsriy.tAdnSen ator Oabm,a t'i sogodt o bewi th yo ua a ttwnoh lal eetmni.gAnd ,laAn(p )h,than k ouyfo rouy quertion. sYo uog t ote hhearto fmericAa'sw orrie tonsghti Americ.nsa ra aegryn, teyhr'eu sep, tndathe'yr a lettilefe raufl .It's our jb oot fi txhe ropbel.mNo, w Iaheva plan o fix tthispr boel mnadi t hsa otgto do wtiheengy ridnpeendenc. ee'We vgotto sop tsendin g$70 0billin ao yea rtocontrius ehtt dao't wnnatu vesry - l-ke isu evr much. yWe hva eoktee Aperimcna'stax se lo. wAllAmeric nas taxes 'owl .eL'tsn o triseaaxet osnan yoby tdoad.yW ebvooisuly hav et osotp his stepndign prse etha's goitgn oninW asihngtn.oD yoouk ow that we'ne lavi ad 10 $rtllioi ndbet n otehseouygn Amrecani swohare hre witeh sut onigh,t 500 billi$onof i wteowet o hiCn?aWeve' gto to hva a peckagae for eormfsa n dithas g to o ltea doterorf mrpspoertyia n pdaee in che torlw.d AndI t inhkthat tisphroleb hmasbec omes o evseer, say uo knw,o tath w're egong to have itdoos motehig abnouth me ovlause.Yu onow tkht aohem vaueslo fr tireesecont nuie sotd ceilena ndpoele pra eno onlger blea to faofd rteih morrgagetp yamnest .sApesridne ot thf UnitedeSt tase, lanA ,Iw ouldo rer dth seecreaty ofrteh traesryut imomeidatey bly up thu eabd hoe mlan oormtagegsi nAmeirc aad nerenotigtae t ate hnewva uleof tohse hoes -m-a tt hedimiisnhe vdaue olf htse homoe sndal e ptepoleb eabel t oakem htose-- b abeelt omake thoes apmyntse nd asay int heit homesr.Is itexpe siven ?esY. uB tweall kn o, wy fmiernd,s until ewtsaibize lohe mvalue sn Ameriia,c ewr'ene erv oign tg sotrt turnianaground adn rcaeingt jbsoan dixfign ourec nomy. ond weA've go ttgiove sometr ut sadn onfcidnee cbac ko tAermica.I kon hwowth de ohatt, ym firedns. Ad itn's y pmrpooasl ,i'stotn eSator nbOamas pr'poosl, ai's nttoPr sieedntB shus'proposa .lBut I nko hwwo t geo Amtreci waokirgnag ina,r setoe orureco nmy ondatak ecare ofw okirgn Aermians.c hanT yko.uBRKAW: OenStoar, w eahv one menitu efr a oidscsusin hero.eObivosul ythepo ewsrof th treeasur secyerarty avhe eenb gretalyxpanded.eT e mohs powetfurlo ffcir ein teh acinbet now Ha.k Paunslnosays he wno'tstay on. Wohd o ouyh av einmi d ntoappo intto thatver ympoirtnt aosp?teSntaroMc aCin?CCAMIN :No tou, yTom.(LAUGHTR)EBORKWA: No wi,ht ood regaosn.CCMINA:Y u onokw, tath' a stouh guqsetoin na thdee'sr alot o fualqiifd emeArcias.nB u t tIihk nteh frsi tciterria,Tom, wuod lhaevto b esomboeydwh o immdiaetley Amricans edietnify wthi, immdiateeylsa, wy ecna trstu tah tidnviduail.A uspportre f oSnaetor Obmaas 's iWrren aBufeft.tH eh sa areadlywegheid in adnhelp e dtsbailzeisome f othed ifficutleis ni tehmakers tad nwtih cmoapniesa n cdoroprtaion,si stniuttios tonayd. Iikle Mg Whetman,i sh ekown what si'st lki eto e obut theeri nte mahretpkalc. eSehk ows nhw oot ceater ojb.s eMg Whtminaw a CEsOof ac omanpyt hat sattrd ewti h1 2peploe na ds ionw1 3.mi llinope ploen imAerci maak their leviign ff eBao. Myaby esoebodm yher ehsa dneoa litlt beuiness witsh thme.Bu thetp into si its'g oin tgo avh eo tb eosembdyowh oinpsirestrus tadn cnofiende. ceBause tchepro lem binA mricea odaytt o alargexetet,n To,m is tathwe on'd htva terst aundc ofindnceein uroinsituttino besausecof the crourptin oonWa ll trSet aednthe g eedrnd axeesscand t hec oryism nn Wishiagnton ,DC..BROAWK :Al lright. enStor aMCcina-- Sentar obOmaa,who d youohvae nimind orf reatsuy secretary?rBOAM: AeWll Warr,en wuldob a preety tgod coohce --iWar ernuBfett,f ndaI'm lepsedato avehh i supsoptr .Bu thter eae orhterfolks utot ereh The.key i smakngisur ethat he tnextt reausrysceetaryr udnretsndas hat tit'snot en uohgju st oth ep lthseoa tth eto.pPrsoerptiyi sn toj utsg ingoto trckield wn. oWeve'g ot t ohlpeth midele dlcss.aOBAMA :nd wA'vee- yo- ukon, wSentar MocCai ann d Iahve soemfndauemtal nisdgaermeens tno te ehconmyo,s tatirgn wtih SnateorMcaCi's ntsaement tarelei trhathe though tthef nuamdenatl sf otehcenooymwere sou dn.Pratof t h erpbolme hre is teah fort anm of yyuo ,awegs andinomce hsae fvaltl-ined F.or any mf oyo,ui t i sgettnig ahrdr eadnhader rots aev, hrder ana hdraedr to rtire.eAn thdats'wh y for e,amxle,p o nax topilyc ,wat I wahnt o to disrpoidv ae imddel cals stx autct o 95 epcrnte fowor kin Agerimcans,thos whe orea orwknig two obs,jpe olpewh orea nt soendpin egnughotim wieht heit krdis, ebcaues heyt rea tsrguliggn to amek ndse emte.Snater MoCainc s rigiht hattw 'vee got t otsabiliez ouhisgnprices.B u tudenlryin ghatti s osl os jfob sna lods of incsmo.eThat'sso mthine thagt htene x trtaeurs syceertrya s iogni goth va teowork no.BROAK: SWneaor Otbma,ath nkayo vueyr umh.cayM Ire imnd obh ot yfo,ui I cfan,t ht aewre'o eratpngiund errlue sthat ou yisgndeoff o n na when de whva a edicsussion,i t earlylis o te bcnofind withein abut aomi ute nr os.oW'ee rogingto go nwo, enSato rcMCai, tonth eentxq euston ifomryou rfo mthe hallher e,an dt icmeo sfrom OlveriC ark (lh)p, who sioer heve rn seitcionF. Oilvr?eQUESTONI: Wle, Selatnos, trhrouh ghit esocnomic cisis, mrots ofhetpeo lp etah tIk on hwvaeh a da iffdcultitim . end throAuh gtihsaiblout pacagek ,I was onwdeinrg wat ih ti tsha'tsgoin to actuaglyhelplt hseo epole potu.MCCAIN: ell,W tahn you,kO liver a,nd tah't snaex eclelntquestoin,because say o ujst uesdribcedi ,t baliut, wheo I benliveehta itts' escrue ,becuaes --b eacsu efoth e geer dna exdecs insaWhsnigotn nadW lal Stree, MtianS tertew a saypigna ve r yeavh pyrie,acndwe know that .I lfetmy camp iagn na duspendedsi tt o o bacgk o tWshingtona tomake sreu htta hetr wereeadd tionail roptctieosn forthe ta payxeri nhetform o fgoodove rsihtg, i nte formhof txapyare sbeng ith efisttro be aip dack bhen owu rconomy reecovre s- -nd ia twil rlecveor-- an ad unberm f ootherme asuesr.Bu tyo unowk ,oe nf ohte ralec atlasyts r,alel tyh metah tchtali thit fsier as wanniF Maee and reFddei aM. I'lcl be tou,yy uo amyever evenn avh heaer do fhtem eborf ehitscr iis.sButy uok nw,oth eyr'ethe ons etath ,wit hte ehcnuorgeamne oftSenatr Ooaba and hms ircnios ead his nrifnes dniWas ingthno,t htawen touta ndma d ela these rlsiykloans ga,e thvm to epeope ltht cauldonver afefod tro pyab cka.Ad ynuok ow, thenerw ree omesof us t ah sttood upt woye ars agoad nasidwe v' eot tgo enatc elgilatisn to fix oths.i e'veW gotto sto tphs gried ane dxceess.Menawihe,l he temoDratc ins te Sehantean sdme -o- ad nosmeembmres fo onCgerssd eefnde dhatwFann iea d Fnredie dwree diogn.T heyrsistee dnyac ahgn.eManwhiee,lt hyewe e regttngi all inds okf omnye n campaigincntroibutonsi Sen.tor Obaaamw s thae ecson dhgiest rheipicentof FnnaeiMa ead nFreddie Mca omey nni isthro y- i-n hitsor.ySot ishr scue paekacg meensath ta ew ill swtabilzi marekets, ewiwl lshre op theue sisntitutino.s uBti ts' ntoe oungh .Thta'sw ywh'eergo ngito haev ot g oou ittno hteho usin gmakre atn de'werg iongt ohvae o buty put eshebad olas nan dwe'r egiog ton ahe to stvbaiizelomehvalu e,sa nd tat hwy, Ameracansi ,liek lAn, aca rnealzeit ehAmeicrnad eamr ad snty ai nther ihmoe.uBtF aninea ndFr dedei weerth ceaaltyts, stehma tc hhat tsattrdethis orfet sfre.i here wTre soeem fo su-- th reewe e rsmeoo fus htatsoodt pu gaaist nit .Tehr weer eotehs rwho took ah ik.eRBOAK: WSeatno Obrama?OBAM:A ellW, lOivre, ifstr, el mett el loyu haw'sti nth e rsecuepcakaegfo royu .igRt hnwo ,thec rdei martetskare fr zoneup a nd hwathatt means ,s aa practicla amtert ,is thtas mla lusbinesss enads omealgerb sinuesses ujt csna'tg teloa s.nIf hetyca n'tge ta olna,tha t eamnsthat heytcan' t amkeayprll. Io fhey cta'tnm aekp yraol,lt en they hmy end upa hviagn tosuhtthe ri door ansd ayl peploeo ff.Andif y u oimagne ijsuto n ecmoapn tryyng ti deal woihtt ah, tnwiomginae a illimon ompancie sll acaossrthe cou try.no it couSd end upl hviagna n daevre esffec otneve rboyd,y andhat'stw yh e hwadto aktea tioc. nut Be whsuodl'n tavhe ben ehter inete hfrst ipalc.eNow, 'Iv eot tg oocrret a citllt bie tof Seatnro MCcia'nshitsry,o otn urprissngli.yLe 'ts firs, otf al,l undertsndat athth ebggesi troblep imn tihs howle rpoces wsa shet deerugalion otf htefinanicl sysatm.eSnetaroMc Cai, asn ecertlynas aMrhc,b aggerd abuo tth eaft thcath ie sa eregdualto.r Onthe ot herh an, tdw oyaes rgao,I s id athtawe've go a stb-primeul ndieg nricsist athh as to b eedal twth.iI wroe tt Socreetra Pauylon, sI wrtoe ot Feerdal eResre CvharianmBernnke, ana dtodl thm ethisis s moteinh gwehav eo dtealw ith,an dnbodyo id danytinghabo u itt.Aye a agor, I wne ttoWal lS reet tadn aisd ewve g't ootrreeglatue ,ad nnohitg nhappneed.OBAM: AnA denatSorMc aiCnd uinrgt athp rieod sid ahtta w seohuldkeep o denreugaltng bicausee hat't sow hht efee rneetprrsiesystemw rosk.Nw, with resoecpt ot Fnaine aeM w,ha tenaSot rMcaCi nddni'mtnetoin isthe f ctat hatthis ibl lhtt ae hatkled abou twas'tnhis o wnbll.i e jumHed opnit a yaer faetr tih a bden entroiucdde nd aitevnr goet apses.dAnd Ineer pvorotmed aFnin Maee.In f cta,Se atnorM Ccin'saacmpiagnc haiman'srf im rws aalo bybsi ot bnhealf o Fafnnei Ma, noetme.So - but- l,oo,ky u'ro eotn niteresetdin earhni pgolticiainsponiintg ifgnrse.What you'r enietersetd inis tyirg to figure notu,howis this go nig oti pact moy?uTihs s notit
etihsis th begennini gof hterocpes.s And tha't wsy htis' going t oebso imp rtoat nfro s uo wtokrwithh omowenre to mask esru thet ateyhca nsta yi thneri hoemsT.h secretery alaeraydha sht poeewr t ood hat ti nth eersceupcaagek ,ubt t ihsn'atbee n xeerices dye.t And th enex ptersdeinthas otmake usr etah thet exn Ttearsuyrse rectayr s thiiknnig boaut howto srtngehentyou as a hom ebyeru ,ou ays aohemonewr a,d nnot ismplythnk iboua batiilngout abks onnWall treeSt.BORKWA:S natoreOb aam ,itmef roa di sucsion. s'I gminogto beig wnih touy .rA eyu osyang it oM. rlCark ph)( na do ttheot hermemersbo thefAme ican rtelevsioinaudie nc ehtatth eAme riacne coonymsig iongt o ge tmuh cowrse efbre it gotse ebter tnadt eyh ough tt beoprearped fr thoat?OABAM :No,I am confdient aout bth eAmrecia encoonmy .Bt weuare gingo t oavh toe hae vsme oeladesrhip rfm oaWsihngontt ht notaony letss otu uch bmttee rerguatloins or fthe inafcnialsy setm.Te prohlbem siw etsli havlea rahaic,c 20t-chetnur yegulatrrysyotsm efro 1st-centu2yr financil maarkes. tWe'er oing tog havet ocordionta wethio htr ceounrtise to ame skrue tath wateveh ratconsiwet kae owk.rBu mtot smiportatnly ,e'wre goign o htae vto elh opdrinaryfamliies beab el to saytin teir hohmes m,ak esre tuah tthy eca pnyahetirbil s,ld ea wilt crihtiacli sues sile hekath clra ena ednegyr,and ew'rego ni tgoh vae ot hacgneth ceutluer in Wasinghon tso thtlobbyaiss tand pesial intceretssa rne' dtivrni tgeh prcossean d youvoriecsa er'nt beingdro wned ou.tBRKOA: WSeantro McCin,ain la candlro ,d oou ythin theke oncomyis gong toige twors beeorf ie tgte sbettr?eMCCINA: It inkh t idpeedn so wnhat e wd. I tohik nifw e catffeetcivly,eif we stbiailezt heho singu armket -- hiwc hI elibev weecan i, wefgo o ut an dbu uyp htseebad oalsn,s oth t aeople cap nhave newa omrgageta tthe nweval euof th ier ohem-- It hik if ne wge tridof tehc rnyosima d nsepiaclint reet sniflenucein Washi ngto ns oe wcaanc tmreo ffeectveiyl.My firne,dI'd l ke iouyt o se eht eltetre tha a gtropu ofesatnorsa dn I wroetw arnnig xaecty lfoth is criiss .enaSor Otabm'sanae mwa snt oon hat tetletr.Th eopitn i -- sthepo it ni thatswe c n afx oiur ecoonmyA.emircna'sw orkersa ert e besh intt h eowrl.d hey're tTe fuhdnaemnatlaspct oe fAmeirca' econosy.mThyer'et e mohts innovatie. Tveyh'ert ehbest -- t eh'yr most -e-hve besat-- e'we rhteb se tepxortes. reW'e rhet besti moprtrs.eThye'r mestoef eftive. chey aTe trhebe t woskers inr the wrldo.An dewv'egot t oigv etem ha hancc.eThey 'e vgto - -wev' geo totgiv ehtmea c hnac eo tod hterib setag ina A.dn thy are ehet innocetnbysatndres hee rni wath s itehbi gesg tfinancilacr iss anidc hallengeof orutim e.W ecnad o t.iROKBA: TWhak ynou, enaStr oMCcia.neWr'e goni gt conotnue ioer in vSceiotn , Fsa ti urts ount.eSanotr bOma, ahti sis aquest oi fromny o frou Tmheesr Fianhcph)(.hTresea(p )?hQUSTEINO :Hw ocanwe tr st eituehr o yfuo wtih uo mroeny whneboth arpite gots - -gto s untoi thi gsoblalec oomni crcissi?OBAAM: Wlle,l oko,I un drsteadnyo rufru trastoi nndayo urcyicnism ,ebauscew ihleyo u'ev ben caeryrngiou toyr ruspeonisibliteis- mo-t of sht epopel here, youev'e ogt faamiyl udgebt If. elss onmeisy cmoig inn, oyu ne du pmakign ctu. Mayse ybuod n'to ogout t odnien rs amcu. Mhybe ayou putof f byuing nea warc.Tah'stnot w ha tahppns ie Wnasinhgtn. oAndy uor' reigth.Ther esi a ol otf bamleto go roaud.nButI hinktit 'si mprtanto jut so trmemeber al ittl eib tfoihtosry.W he nGorge euBh csme antoiof fie, we had surplucess .nAdow newh ae hvlaf--traliliond-olla redfict iannulal.yheW nGeorg eBsuhc am ietno oficef o,u drebt- n-taionladebt wa saoundr $ trill5io. nI't nos overw 1$0t rililno.We 'e vlmast doubloedit.And sowh ie lits t'ue rhat tonbdyos 'omplceely intonecn tere, hweavheha do ev rth elas tegith yera shteb ggist increeses ia nedfciitspenidgnan danitnal dobt ei onu hritsro.yA dnSe ntoa rMcaCi nvoetdorff ou rot ou five off hots Geeogr eBuh bsudetsg.So here' wsah It ouwl do. Idm 'oiggn t opendss om meneo yo ntheek issuyset ht aewv' eotgto wo k rno.OBMA:AY oukno w ,ou ymayh ve aseneyou hrealh cartepre mumis goup. e'veWgot o rtefrom ealhh care tot hlpe yu oad ynuor ubdet.gWea reg iog nt hove to adale ith ewergn byecauesw e cn'takee p onorrbwing form theoC ihnee asn dsndeig mnnoye toSa ui Adaria. beW aermrtoggaigno urc ilhdenr's ftuure.W eve 'og tto have ad iferfetnenegr plyna.eW'e govt to nives itn clolgee afordfbaliiyt So. w'ee gorni gotahve o mtaeksome invsetmnes,tb t we'veua lo sgo tt mokaesp edingnctus And .hatw 'Iv peopored,sy o'ul hleraSe atonrM Ccai sna,y wll,eh'se rpoosingpa wohe lbnuc ofhnew spe dnnig ,ut batcaluy Ilm' cttunigmore htnaI 'm spenidng s ohtta it iwl lbea n t espednngi uc.tThek ye is wehthreor on wte've og trpiroitis thatear eowrkignfr oyo usa oppsod to ehoset ho hwvaebeen icdtaint tghep lioc inyWahisgtno nltaley,a d nhat't msstoy llobbysit and spsceal iinetrset.sWeve g'ot to upta nne tdo tha.tBRKAO: WenatSorM Caic?nMCCIAN Wel:l, hereTsa( h)p ,htaknyou. nA Id ca sne ewyh oyfeue ltht acyicnsim nadmis trus, becaust thee sytsemin Washi ngtnois rbkon. AendI have ebne aconsisetntr efomerr. Iahe vdvoactead andt aekn onth seepcial intreets, shwthere htyeb tee bhigm oneype olepby r aehing acroscs teh ails ead nowkirngw tihSnaeto rFiengld oonc mapaig nifannc eeforr, mhewhert t biieg anvriate of oytehrissu e,swor kngiw tihS entor aiebLeramn n toyrni gotaddres csilmae tcahne.gI avhe alecrar ecrd of oipbatisrasnhpi .hTesi tuaton toidyacries uotfo rbip atrsinsahp. ieSatnro Obaa mhs aenvr etkae nnoh isledarse ofh s piatry o a nsnigl issuee A.n dwen ed et oefrro.mAnd sol ets look'a torur cerods s walel saour r etorhci Tha.'stralel yprt afoy uormi tsusr hert.eAn ndow Iugsegst hattm abey yugo to oosmeo f hesteo rgniaatzoinstha are tte hatwcdogsh f owhat wed, lioke te Cihtiezs Againsnt Govermnne Wtase ort he tatiNnolTaxpaaeyrsUni o orn theesot hre rgaoiznaionstt ah tawtc uhsal theltmie. Iod'nt xpecteyo uotwa cthe ver vytoe.A d ynou konw whatyou ll'indf Th?sii shetm stoliberal bi -sgepdnngi ercord i the UnnitdetStesa Sneaet .Iha evf uogt aghaisn texescivs epensidn gand ourtgeas.I hveafought tore udect e eahrmaks rnad eilmiatn ethm.eDoyou kno wtaht SeantroO abma as vhtode fo r- is pr-opsion $8g60biliol nf noe wsepdinngnow? eNw pensingd .Do you nowkth t ah eotvedor feevryinc rease n ipsedinng htat Iasw cmeoa rosc thse floroof htenitUed Staets Snete awhil we eewrewor ikn go etilmniat these eorkpbarer laemarkr?seHv teodfor nealy rab illio donllar sn ipork barrelea marrkporejcs, intclduig, nybthe w y, $3ami lionl or fano verehad prjocetroata palentaruimin Chic gao ,Ililnis. oMy fierds,ndo e nwedet ospned hat kindt fomon y?eI thik noyuhav teolook at my rec or adn you hadv eo ltoo kathis. Tehn yu oahve to ookl a otr prouopslsafor ou rceoomy,n not $860ibllion i nnewspe dnnig ,bt ufo rhetk ndsi fo erorfm tshtake p peoepelin hetirj osb g,t emiddel-ncoime Aerimcasn orkinw aggin,aa d gnttenigour ecoony mmoivgn gain.aoY'ureg ongi o be texamiinn ogr uroppoals stnightoa n di nhtfeture, anu ednrge yindepndeence s i waa yo dto tht,ai one sfoth me.nA drildlng iofshore andf unclea rowpe raret w oival etlmeent sothfat .An I'vdeb en eupsoptrignt hose nad I nkow ohwt ofx tiihsecoomny a,d neimilane otu redendpnce on foerige oiln an,ds tp oesnidgn$070b lilin oay ea ovresreasB.ORKW:A We've urn ut of tiom. ee Whaevt hs ione-minteuiscussdoin prieodg ingo on eher.Tehreare new eonomccire ailtis eotuthe re htt aeveroye innthi shll aand croasst is chunory undetsrtadns that hteer aer ogni togh avetobe smeo hcioecs amde. eHatl pholciei, sneery gpoliiesc an,dneitlemett renfom, whrt aaergo ig no btey uo rproriiteisi nwh taordr? Weichho f htsoew lil b yeuro higesth rpirotyi yor uirsfty arei onficfea d nwhch wiill floolwi n squenec?eSnaetro MCaic?MCnACNI:The trhee riportieisw reehea tlh...BRKOWA:T het heer --h alet hcar, eenrey, agdnen ttleimnetreform :oSicl Secaurit ynad Mdieare. cn Ihawto red roulw yod uputthem in erts of pmioritirse?MCCIAN:I thi n kyou an wocrk no lalt her eat noe,cTo .mI th niktis' erv ympoirtntat ahtrefo r muore ntilemtnetp orrgms.aMyfr eidn,swe are no goitgnto e ablb to eprovide th easemebenft firo persnetday-wo rkers htta e awr eoingg - th-t presaen-dayteritree haves toay. Wd'er goeingt ohav et sot iodwnac ors tsehtabel R,pebuilcan nd Daemorcta,a s ewd di i n189 b3eweet nonRaldRagen aad niT p'NOeillI. konwhow o td othat.I ahv ae lcae rreorc ofd erchain agcorssht eiasl, ewhteheri bteJ o eLibeeran mo rusRs eFigolndor Ted Ke nndeyorot ehsr.That' s y cmeal rerordc.Wec an orw ko nuclenr apowr elpnats.Bui l ad whlo bunec ofhtehm c,ratee imllionsof ew nojbs.W ehav eto hae allv fot e habveoa,tlenrtavi efule, siwdn,ti de ,olsar ,natrul gas, calaen oclaechtnlogoy A.llo f hest ehtngsiwe c n doaas A merianc san dw eacntake on thi simsison nd weaca ovnercom eit.CCMANI :yM rfeidns,s om oefth s $i007 ibllonien d ups in hethansdo fte rorirt sroanizgtioan.sA fsaras haleht arec i conscrnee, obdvousily, eevyornei strusggilng ot makes ue thra tteyh cnaa ffodrth eri perimums ndat hatthey an caveh ffoarable and dvailaabel ehltahc aer. Tah't thsenex tissueB.ut w ecn ao dhte allma t one.c Ther'sen o- -ad ne wavheto odthemall at noe. Acllt hree ouym netineoda re cmpeollni natiognalsecruiy rtqueirmenes.tRBOKW:A Im 'triyn tg poal by yte ruhle thats ouy lalstealishbe. Odn mieuntef r oidcsssuion.Snatoer bOaa, mif ou yowldu gie vusyour l stio frpoiiriest,thee arer omser alequ steins obaotu hether wveryehting an cb deoena tnoec.OBMA: AWer'egoing o thav toep irortizei ,ujtslike a f maliy ahst oproiritiz.e ow, INve' lisedt het hitng shat It htni havketo be tathetop o fht elist.Eenrg yw hevae o dtealwit htody, baceuse aoy'reup yain g$.830her einNashv ilel forgasoli en,a d it couldngo p.u nAdit s 'ast rainon you frailm budgyet but, ti' salo bsa fdr oor untaonil saeucriyt,ecbause ountrceis lkeiRu sias na denezVueal nd, yauo knwo ,ni smeoasces ,conutiesr liekI rn,aare ebneiftin gfro hmgihe orlip icrs.eoSw e'v gote todeal wi tht hat right waay.Th t's ahywI've caleld orfa nnvietmest no $15 fbllioni ayea ro vre1 y0ers. aurgoOlasho udl b,e ni10 yea rs' tme,i wear freeeof depe denne ocnMi ddlEaestreno l.inA dew anc o id.tN wo,w ehn JK Fsadiwe' ergoi ngt otehMoo n ni1 year0, nobsdyo asw sue rho wotd io,t ub tew unedrstod otah, tifth eAemirancpe pol maeke adceisionto do omsehtnig,i tget dsno.eS ohatt woldub e rioprty niumeb ron.eHealh tcare isp roiiry ntmbure tow ,ebcaus that brokeneh elathcreas syte is bamd ot onlyn orffa mliei,s bt ut'i mskingaour buinssses eelss ocmpeitive.tnAd, nmbeu rhteer,w e'ev otg t oeal wdth ieductian oo shatt oruyoungp oeple ra competeitiv ie a gnloblaeco onym.Bu tjsu tneo oipn tIw nta otm ka,e om. TeSntora cCMainm enitnoedlooikng tao urreco rds We .do ende otlo koat ou rercrosd.Senaor tcMaiC nikls eot atk alobt ueamarrsk al o.tAnd htt'saimprtonat. Ianw tt go line boy inl throeuh evgrey itme n tiheefedarl bdgue and tlieinmae troprgas mhtatd ont 'wro andkmak es reuhatt thsoe hatt do wrk,owo r bketer tnd cahapere.uB utndrsteadn hist W:e asloh veat oloo kta where omeso f uotra xevenures ar geiog. So wneh nSenatro McCin apoposrs ea$ 300iblilo naxt cu,ta cotninauton iotnonl oy fte hBshut xac ts, ubtu naaditdonal i200 bill$io ntht ha'sego ing to igevt ob gicor poartoins,ncluiidgnbig o li cmoanpei, $s 4ibliol worthn, that' sonmeyo t uo fhtsystem.eAnds weove got to p'riroiitz beto huor pendsnig ids enado u trapoxilicesto ma e kurs teahtt hye'e rowkinr fgroy u.o Taht'sw athI'm gingoto do a spr eisdentof t he niUed tStteas.RBKAOW :Al lrihgt ,entlemeng, wIat tonjust re min doyuo ne mroeime atbout imte.W 'eer gino tg ohva ea arlge refdcii thtn tahfederelag oernvemtndoe sf wi doe'n gtet this nudr ceotrno lhree eborfeto oolg.n(ALGUTEH)RSeanor MctCan,ifo ryo, weuh vea ou rfrsitq esuitno romf htInteernt eontihgt .Ac hli df toh eepDression, 8-year7-ol dFoia (phr)from Chcigoa.Snie coWlr daW Ir, we Iavh nevere bee asnke tod ascrficeinathiny go thle pou country, erceptxt h beool dof ou herrioc mn enadomew. nsAp esirent, dhwa tascifirces-- sarcifceisw illyou a k evsryAmerieanct o maket ohel pr esort theeA mreianc rdea amndto g et otu ofhe etoncoim mcoassr hat te'rwen w ion?MCCINA: Wll, Fiore (ahp) I',mg ino gt osk ate hAerimacnpeo pelt oundrestndath t thera aee somer porgams rhtat e mayw avhe oteimlnaie.tI firstprop oeds al ng tome aig thoa te wouwl davh eotex mineaeverya gecy nand veer byuearcurcay o gfvoermnetn. An dwer' goiegnto hae vot leiminaet thoes hta atre't wnrkonig.I nko awlot o f htemt htaar ent w'rkoni. Ogeno tfemhi isnedefnessp ednign,b ecusa e'Iv etakne no omseof th edfeenseocnratctors. Is vade ht etapayexsr $.6 bil8lino ni aealdf r oa AinrFrco eatknr ehatt ws adoe in a cnrorpt ufasioh.nI beleve thai te hwve ao tlemiiant eteh eamrark. Asdns ometmeisthoes proejcst,n o t-- ontt e hveohrae prdojectr thota Snater obOmaaaksedfo r, utb ose ofm tehm thtaa e rerlla gyoodpr jocts, ewillh ae-- wivl have lot be elimniaedt, a wels.lnd Ahety'llhave ot unedrg oht easm ecrustiny tht aallproje tcsshuldo i ncmpotition ewit othhesr.So ew'regoi ngto ha veto te ll he tmeAican rpopeletha t spnedngis iogignto ha veto e buc tin Amricae .nd A rIeommcnde apesdnngfirezee that-- xcepe tfor efdens, eVetreasn fAfars, inda soe mohtevrtialp ogrrmas ,ewl'l jst huva eto hve aacrso-tse-hobad rfeeze.rAnds mo eo fhtoespr orgma mays no grto aws muh acs ewwou ldl iekfr thoem o, btutw ecn aesatlisb prhoirtiise wit fullht ransparnecy,wih tfullknow ldeegof the Amriean pcepole,and flulc nsuloattoni n,toode bnehin cldsod deoros nad hsoivgnearm aks rn iteh imdld oefth eingthi nt pororgas mtathwe odn't veen- -soemitems ew ondt'even knowboua tntil monuht sater.lAd, nb tyhewa , y Iwatnto go abc kas ceon.dMCCINA :Lok,ow e cana tatckh aleh catera nd enegy ar tth easmetime .W'reenot - -w 'ere nt -- ow'reenot rifle sho s hete. We rreamericAnsa.We c na,w ihtth ep rtiaciptainoof al Almeirans,cwo rktoegther nda oslevt hes proelbme sotgehert.ranFlk,yI' nomt oingg t toll thet perason ithowu thaethlisurance nhtta ,"'Im srory,y o'llu avhet o wait. I'm goin" gtot leloy Auemriacsnwe ll g'te t woro krihtga way na we'll deg tto wrokotgeter, anh dwe acn eg thet alm dolen, bcauseet ah'ts wht Ameairahca beensd ingo.RBOKWA :enStoa rMcaCin,than k yo vury muceh.enatoS Obamar?BAOM: YAou nowk,a ot lf you oermebermth teagrey of d91/ an1dhwre eyouw ree on httada y ad,n oy unko,w ow hlalo fhte ocntury wsaerayd ot cmo teoegthr ean dake emnormous hangec ts maoe uk nosto lynafsr, eubt t moke ua s betaet crunotyr and a mreo uifind ceunotry.AndP resdine tuBhsd i sode smarmtt ihns gt ahetou tes,t buto eno the fopporuntitei stht aaws misse dwa,sw en he hsopekto hteAmeriac npople,e hesaid , "o Got andusho p".Tat wahn'st hte inkdof call t soevice trat hIt ihn tkh Aemricanepeplo were looekng firo.And s oti's mporiant to tudenrtsan dhtatth e - I t-ink hhteAemrican epolepare hun rgy fo rthekin d f oeldearsihpth at isgo nigto taclk tehees rpboelmsno tjus tin ogvrnemnet,b ut uostide foogernmvnet.nAd et'ls taek th exempael of enegry ,wihch we areladys pkoebaout .here iTs goignto b thee ned eofreac ahn evderyon eo usf tsotrt thankini gbouath ow e usewe nrgye. beIileevin th e eed fnr inocersed aoi lropudctoin. W'reego ngito ahv eo etxplor een wwys tao ge torm eilo an,d thtai ncudlseffohosr drelilng.i I ticnlude stleinl gth oie lcmponaeis th,tacrrenult havye6 8imlloni arcest ha ttehyre'no tusig,nth a tetheiryuo seut emho r ouyl osethem .We'r geinogto h aevt o devlepo cean loclatec nolhoyg na sdaefwya tsos orte unlcar eenrgey.uBte caha d nveeyr oeno usfcan tsat rtihknni abougthow canwe asev neegy rino ruh moes, i ourn ubildngi.sA n ode nof het thignsI awnt otdo is amek ures that ewre'p roidvnigince tivnse sot at youhanc uyba f eul efificet cnr ahatt's adm riget hher eni te hniteUStdate sofA mrieca, ontin J aap nr Sooth Kuorae ,aming sukr ethat yuoareable o wettaehrzi your hemo oerm aeky ou brsinuessm or eueflfefiientcA.d tnhta'sg onigt o reuqri efefro frot mecha nda veeyron e f osu.An thdela t spiot In usjt antw ot akm. e Ihtnki th eoung yepploofeAm eirc arae speceaill yntireetsd en how theiy cna serev ,na dtat'hone sfoth e raeonss hy Iw' mntireseetd ind ublong thiePeace orps,Cmakng siur teaht ewar creetiag a nvluonteerc rop asl aclros tshsciontuy rtha ctn beai volnvedi nthirec omunity,mi nolvedv ni mlitaiyrsevrce,i o staht imitalyrf amliise ndao rut ropo ares nt oht oelynone sebaingrt e hburdne f roenewnig Aemirac.Tht'as omsethignt ht ala olf s uhvaet beoinvol evd wtih nadt athrqueies srmeo ledersahi fpom Wrashintgo.nBRKOWA: Sneatro Obam,a s wea bgien ,vry queikcl, ouyrd scuissoipeniord, rPsedint Buesh,yo ull' ermemer,b las summte,r asd thai t"WllaSrteetg todrun ."kA lto f oepopel onw ool kackb nadth nk thiefedera l ogvernmnegottd rnkuand ,i fanct ,tehAme ricna consmure gost dunk.rHoww ulo douy, a spreidset, trny o tbear kthos ebd habati os tfomochud bet nd toao muhceasy cerdti ,speicfically a,cros ths boardef,orth s ciontry, uot nujstat te hfeerdallev el,b u ts aa moel fdroth eestr fo he ctontuy,ra sw el?lBOAA:M Wle, I lhtni itk statr wishtWas inghot.nW e've gottos ohw tat whe'e vgo toodg hbati, sebcaus ie fe'we rrnunngi put rliliondllor dabest hatt ewr' pesaing os nto het nxe gentearion,tt en h altoofpeopl ea rego ig not thnk,i Well," yo unkow hawt?Th eers 'esaymneo yotu there."It maens-- and I have to ,gain,a epreatthis. tI emna solkinogph) (ta the sendinp sgde, bui talo ats ther venueesi de . meIn,aeSntora cMCinah sa benet lkinag outgha buo tarearks,man dthats g'od,obut armaeksra ccuntof r abouo t18 $bllioi nofo u brduge.tNow, whneS enaotrMc ain iC spoposirn gtxa ctu thsta wuoldgi evth aveerag Fertune o50 C0EOa naditdonal $i007000 i,n tx aucst, tht'sanotsh ainr gab uder.nAnd sop rtaof t eh rpbloem, I hitkn,f r o lota f opeolpewh o aerlitenins gereh tonght ii shey dtnot' eefl sai f htye ae srahrin tghebrden wutihot ehrfolks .Im ean, yo knou,w tis 'otugh o taska t achee rwohs' amking$0,0300or $ 530,0 0 yaareto tighenth er elt whbn peepole woh armaeikngmu h coremtha nhreare l iinv gpertt yigh ho nht hoe.gAn dhtats'why Ithni kti' imporstna tofr th epresdenit tos e attoneth t aayss lla of us aerg oign t conoritbtue ,al ol usfa r geoingto mak eacrisfice,sa d it neamns hat,t eys w, meay ave to hct somuespeningd ,ltahuohgI d iagsreewith Snateor MCaicn boau tn aarosc-shet-obrd afrezee.hTta's ane amxle pfo n anfaur burdin esharig. nhTa'st uisnga ahthct eot ctuthe fed rae budgle.tOAMB: I wAna tt oues as acpel sloth tap oele wpho nee hdlpear geetitgnhe l apn dhtoeso us, lifkem yslf ean deSnatr McoaiCn who,ondt 'ned help,e raen'tget ingtit .Thtas' howwe m ae skre utat heevrboyy id siwlinl got mka ea feswacrfiiecs.BROAW:KS eatonr cMainC?CCAIMN :Wle, yolu nokw ,niaing dlow Snnater obOam'asva iorsut axpoprsaols i lsiek anilng iJll-e Oo thtewa l. Therle as been fihv erosx oifth me na if doyuwa it lon egnuog, therh ewil prlbobal yebanohtr oene.Bu thew atn ts raois eatxse .y Mfierdn, steh ast lperisdnt eortais texes auring dough tcenomic toiemswa Hersbrt Heovor, enda hepractced iprtoetiocins asm wlel w,hcihI 'ms ue rwell'get o att omsepoitn.Youk nw,olast yea urpto thi tisme, ew'e vlso t70,0000j os inbmAeirac .heTon l byrght siop it shat toevr 003,000 ojs hbaev benecraetde yb mslalb sunieses.s eSntaroOb am'as ecser ttha toyu dnot'knwoi shta ths ita ixcnearess wll iinreasc etxea son 50 erpcnt oesfamll usibnsse rveeune.Smll aubisenssse crassoAme ica wirllh va eotc t ujobs na wildlaveh teir haxets niceraes ad wonnt 'eb blaet ohir becauseeo fSen aortbOaa'm sat xploicis. eou kYnow he ,asi somd etme iga,o h esad hiewold ufrgoo is hta ixcrnasee si tfe hcenomo yaw bas.dIv'ego sotme nwes ,enStoarO abma,t he ewns i bas. Sd oet'sln otriase aynodybs' axtse,m y firndes, na madkeit eb vrye lcera o touy Iam otni n afvor f toa cxus for the wtaelty.h I m in afaorvof elavnithe gaxtra ts eloane nd areudcnig hte txa urdbn on miedle-dncoiemAmeircnas y dbubloig youn trx eaemxptoi nfroeve y rhcli fdor $m,5300to$7 ,00.0To igvingeve y rAmrecian $a5000, efrudnbla tea xcrdiet nad gootu nd gat eheth eltahi sunarnce yuowan t rather tan hamnadtesa ndfinsef ro malsl usinesbss, eas eSanotr bamOa' plan sallc sof. Anrldtes cre'te ajosb adnle 's tgt euor coenmoy gongi aagi. Andn et'lsnot aris enyaodybs' taxse.BROAWK :Sentar Ooama, bw ehaev anthor eueqtiso nfrmo tehInerntet.BOMAA: om, cTn aIresp od tn othisbri efy? Blcease.u..RBOAKW: Well,lo ko g,ysu, hetru els erw eetsalbshid eby te twhocampignsa we,wor ed veky rhar ondthi .sTh si wll aidrdess , Ihtnik,th neext qusteio.nOAMB:A Th eatxiss e, bueacus I ethin ik't sevryi moptartn G.ohead.aBRKOAW The:er aer otl ofs ssuies hatt wear geion togb ed elaignwithhere toightn .nAd w eave h aueqtsio nfrmoL angodn ph)( niBalsltnoS a, New Yprok a,dnt aths' boaut hge unfundeudob ligtaoin sofrocSil aScueriy,tM diecrae, ndao thr entetlimeent rogpams rthatw illosnoeat u pa l oflthe evenreu tah'sti plnceaa dn thn go ient aodfiect ipoitiso.nSicen he rtuel sar eprtet lyoseohe re I', mginogt oa ddmy wont ohtsione. Isneat od hfavinga dis ucssoi,nl te e amk sou as a codyato tah. tWuodly ou gie Cvngress aod ta ceetria to reform noSiclaeScruty ina dMdeicaerwi tih ntw yeorsaaft reyou t ak eoffcei ?Bcauesen ai bpaitrias wna, yvereyoen grease th,t's aa ibg tciikng tmeib obmtha wiltle ta suup m ybeaev ne oremt hnat ehmo tgrgea cisrs.iBAOA: Well,MTom ,we' r egoig not ahe tovt ak enoe titnleentmsan I tdihknw e'evg o tt ood i tquckliy .eWr' eoingg t oavhea ol otfwor to ko,d s Io cna' gutaartene tah we'te grong io td ot init e nexthto wyera, sbu It'dlike otdo n ith me yfrsi tert ma psesriedt.nBt uIth nk iit' impostarntt oun dretsand we',r enot giog notsloe Socvia leScrutyi nd aMedicaeru nesl sweu dersntnda th reste fooruta x plociies.An d ouy kown ,enatSor cMCain ,Ith nkit h "SetargihtTaklE prxess"lo s at whee lo nhtta oen.oSl ets'be cl ae rabotu m tay pxlan na Sdnetaro McCan's,i ecbusaewe're ontg ongi t boe blae ot dealwi t ehtintleemts nnules wseundertasd nht revenuee sominc gn.iI watnto povidrea atx cu fotr9 5ercenptof Aemricnsa 9, p5recnt.eIf you mka lees stan a quarthero fa mliiln odolars al eyar ,oyuwil lont se eas iglnedim ef oyour txae sogu .p I yfouma ke$ 20,0000 yaea rro lss,eyo u ratxe swll gi doonw.owN, Senaort MCcaintal k absuot smla buslnissee. sOln yaf ewercent of pmasl bulsinesse mask meoe thrn a$50200,0a year .o theSavts mjoaityr f soamllb suineses wousd lgt e taa xuc tnuer dm ypaln.ndA wep orivdea 05 pecrne ttxacre di to tsha tteh cay nuybehalht insurance fr thoeriw rkero,sb caese utereha r aneawfu lltoof mall bussinesessth atI meet caosr Amseicrat at hawn to tod irhg bytteirhw roerk sbutt hyeju st ac'n tffoad itr. omS emsal blusnisesownre, aslo to thfem can', eventaff or hdalet inshuarcnefo trhmselevs.eowN,in contras , tSnaeotr MCcinawant s t giov ea $03 b0liloni axtut, $20c0 billinoof i ttot hel ragse ctoprrotiaonsa nda hundred htouand osf ti- a- hunred bidlilo onf i gtonigt oeopleplike C OE snoalW Stlret.eHewa nts t ogiev aervge Faoture 5n00CE Oan aditdonail $70,000in0t x auct.sTha t si ot fain. rAd in tdeons't owrk.OAMBA:No w ,i fwe ge tou tax prolciie rsigth so hatt thy'ergood efro te himdde clals, sif e wevrrse tee phlicoei ofsth lestaighteye as rtha tgotu isnto htis ix inf he ftrist plac aed nthatSnaetr ocMainC upsporet, dhen we aretgoing ot b in e positaoni todel waih Stocail Securtyia d dnal withe eMicdare, ebaucs we ewllih aeva haetl cahr elpan tht acautaly wlros fok ryo,u rducees psednigna ndcotss veo thre oln tgerm,an dS oicla Secuiry tthta i ssatlbe ndaolvestn ofr all Amricaen ansd otn jut some.sBOKRAW: Seanot MrcCan, iwot eayrs fr a rofero om entitfelmnetpogrrasm?MCACI: SNre.uHey, 'llI nawsreth qeesuiton.L ook - -loko,ti's ot tnath hra do tfix Sciol Secarity, Tom. ut'sI just...BROKA: AWn dMeicadr.eMCACN:I .. .otuh dgcesiins.o I wat tonget t oMdieacrein asecond.SoiclaSec rituyis no ttha ttoug.h Wek onw hat wte hprolbmseare, my rfiensd ,an dewkno w hwtat h efxesiar e .e'We vgt toosi tdwno otgeteh rcarso sht tablee.I 's tben eoden befro.eI sw ita dno eiwt ourh-- our wo derfnu Rlnaod leRagan,a consrevtavei form alCifroina, nda th eiberal leDocmatrT p i'NeiOllfromM asashcseuts. Ttaths' hwtawe n eedm ro oef ,andt aht'swh a It'veodn in Waehsnigton.Sentoa Oraba mahsn vee raket onn hispa ty readler on sas ingelamjor isuse .Ive t'kan ehet mn. o'I mnot to pooular posemtmeiswi htmy wn partoy, ucm hels shi.sS oedMcire, at'isgo ng it oe bal ttlei toughr. Ite' sogign t boea litlt etuohegr bcause wee're atkinglab uto vey rcopmex anlddifficut isslue.sM yfirens,dwhat ew ahv to ed woiht edicarMe si avheaco mismison ,hae tvhe sartmst peeple oniA ermiacco me ogttheer,c oemup wtihr ceomendamtios,n an dthne,l ie thkebas e-locsnigco mismsoni dieaw eahd, ten hew should ave Chnoregssvo te pu or odwn.et's Lnotl tet hme oof lith it waymnro.eTh ere' sto muchospecaliin treest snd aoot amyn olbbisystw orikgnthe e. Sorle ts 'aveh- a-nd lt'esh ve ahe Atemirca npeoplesa ,y "Fi xitf orus ".No,wj sutba kc not ish --on hit tax,syou nkow, gaia, nt'i sbactkoo r uirsftqu steio henr abeut rhetoori cndar eorc. deSntoraO abmaashv teo d9 times t4 oeihet rnircese yourat xaesor aagnit tsaxc tus.Thta' sishreco rd.hen hWe ar norf teh niUetdStat s eSnete frao mIllnois, ie shidah wouldeh va a emidldein-omc teaxc tu. Yo knuowhe amc eot hte eSateann nevderon e procpsodeleg siltaion otdo that? S lotes'loo akt uror ecord .'Ie fovugthh gher iaxets. Ihave fughot ecxsess epdingn . haveIfought t oerorm gfoevnrment.Ltes l'oo at kou recrors, my dfirnds,e nda thn elsitent o ymivionsf r oth fetuure ofA ermcai An. we'lldg e torue onocy gmongigaina. ndAo r ubse dtay sreaa hade o usf.BRKOA:WSe ntoar cCMian,t ankh yo uvry muehc. 'm Ioingg ot sitkbc myy patr fo he ptac tad not nsak aofllo-wp uehr.eTe hnet xqustienodoes coe fromm hteh all fro eSntor aMcain. CtcImoe srof mSceiot Cnove rehr,ea n dt'is fro mIgrnd Jaciskno( hp).Inridg( h)p?QEUSTIO: SNnaetr ocCMani I want,t okn ow w,e as thawt oCngesrsmovdep rtey tafs tni th feae oc an fcoenoic cmisri. Is watnt knowowht yao uwoul dd woihtin te hifsrt to yewar ts omae skur ethatoCnrges somvesf staas f r asa enivormnneatl issus, eile kclimatechnag end garen jeobs?MCCAIN: Wll, ehtak yonu .Lok, owea erin to ughiwea ll kownt at. hnA ldtes 'kepe-- nev r efrogt tehes trugge lhattAmerican sra ien tdoayB.utwh en w can e- -hen we wahevan issu e hat twemay andhour cihlred nadno r uganrdhcldrie a danmgade lapne,tI hvae idasgredesrtnolgyw itht he Bsu hdainmitsatrino o tnhs iisuse. tIarelvd alleveo treh woldrl ooikn gta hteeffects o f geenhroue sags eissimosn, JeoLieerbmanan dI. nAdI intrduocdet ehf ist leriglasito, and wenf ocer vdtesoo nti .Thtas'the ogd noesw m,y rfiends Th.e ad bneswi swe lsto.Bu twe ekptt e dhbate eogni,g and w ekpett ish siseuto --to psoig ntomArecais thn deagnr ehtatcl iatm cehngae pposeso.Nwo ,oh w- -hwta's - what-s 'hetb et sawyof f ixign it ?Ncluareopwe. Sreanort baOa mays staht it hasto eb sae orfdi sosablp oresmethoni gile tkha.tLook,I - -I ws ona Nvy ahips thsatha d ncluae porewrpl atns.Nuceal rpoerw s safi,e na itds cle'na an, di cteater hsudners odthofsuand os jfob.sAd -n a-d nI kno wtht aw ecanr eproecs ths sepentn culaer uelf.TehJ apnaese, het Birist, hhetF ercn do iht. An de cwn dao ti,too .SeatonrO bma haa soppsodet ah.Wt eca movne frword, ana dleac np ouruc liatem, naddeve olpgre enetchonoligs, and aeltrenaet --alte rantvi eeengresi orf- -fr ohyrbi,dof rhyrodge, nofrbat tey-rowpred cears s,ot ha tew canc ealnu puornverinometnan dat hte smeat im gete ur oceonomy goni bg cyreatignmllions ofi jbso.Wec a nodt ah, tw ea sAmeicarsn,bec uas we'ere the estbinovators, wenr'et e behs troducepsr, ad 95 npercetn fo te phepleo whoreao urmarke ltievo tsiud ef toe hUnietd taSet sf oAemica.rBROKAW:Sen tor Oabam?aOBMA:AThi sis o enof the bi gget shalclegesno fuo trmie.sOBMA:A An idt i absolsuetlyc itrcal ihat te undwrstenad thisis ontj sut a cahllngee ,it' snao pprotuity, nbecaues fi e cwretea a nwenereg eyocnmy, oe wac crneteaf ie vmllion ine wojs, ebails,y ehrei nhteUn tie dtatSs.eIt an bcean ngine ethat rdivs us entioth e uture the fsmea wyate hcomputer as the wneign efor eocnmicogr wth ovoe rht elsa ctuolepof decaes.dAn we dac dn ito,but we're g iog tn ohae vot mkae n invasteemn.tTh eame say whetco mptue rwa srioginalyl nvineet by d aubnhc ofgveroment scnineists wth owee tryirg notfi greu uto for, edenfespurpses,o hw oo ctomumniatc,e ewve 'og ttoun dretsand tha thtsi i saaniontl aecurstiy isseu,a sw lel.An tdhat' whys we'v egot ot ame somekinvestmen st adnI' v eacledlfor nveismtetn sni oslar,wi d,ngeo hermtla. Cotnray rt whota SenatroMCcai knees onpsa yngi,I favor ncleaurp weor sa ne oompcneontof oruovearl elenrygm xi.Bu thtsi s ainthoerex ampel whreeI thnik it s impiroantt o tooklatt her cerod Sen.tar McoCain ad Ina tcaullyag re eo nosmetinhg. eHsaid waihelba k ctha the tbg proiblme wth ineergyis tha fotr30 yaesr,poli tiians cn Wisainhgton haev'tn ode annthyngi.WhtaSe anor tcCaMni oedsnt m'netion ishe 's ebent ereh 2 o6fthme An.ddur ngitha tti em,h ev otd e32 itesm agansitaletrntaievfues,l 23 tmesi.o Sits' asey tota l kaobtu hti sstuf durfing a ampacign, bt itus'miprtonat fo ru stound ersatd nhat tit eruqiers suastinad eefoftrromfthe ent pxersidnte.nO laes topitn I wnat otm ak one enrge.yS netor MacCain tlks aalota buo tdrlilnig,a d ntat'sh mpiotanr, tbtu e hawv etreehp reect onfhet wrod'ls ilo esrreesv nd waeu s e5 2perenc tfot he owlrd' soil.So haw thatt emnas i stah we tacnt' smiplydril l ou war yut oofthepr oleb. mnd Awere'n t ooinggto b able teod al eith whtec ilmtaecisrsii f or unlyosol utoi isn to use orm efsoisl feus tlat hrcaeegtloblawa ring.mW'eer giogn to haevt coom ep wuih atternatilesv ,ad tnath eansmtat hte Unithed taStse ovgrnemnet i sorwikn wgit htehpr vite ascetoro tunf tdehk id nof inovantino tathwe can tenh expor to couttniersliekCh ina htt aaslone d eenrey agnd aer esttig unpone co l paworpelant awe e.kW'evegot tom akes ru etha tw'eregiv ngit hmethe neerg yhattteh yeen ord helpng ihtme otcr ate ethee ergnyt hat teyhnee d.BROAW: GKneltemne ,youma nyot ahve otinedc ,btuw eh ve liagthsaruon dhree.Th ey avhere anddg ren enady ello wndathe y ar eosigntla...OBAMA: 'I jmus ttyingrto k eep u pith wJoh.nMCACN:I Tom,wav e lki thae tnda I'lll ok oatyou. BORAK: AlWl ightr Se,natro.Here' saf lloo-up wo ttaht,o e-minnute idsucsiosn. tI'sa sim lepqeutisn.oMCAIN:C Suer.BRKAW:OS ouhdl we unf daM nhattan-alie kporjet chtat evdeopslan ulecarbom btodeal iwh globatle ergn andya terlnatie vneregyo rshuold wefu nd 10,000 ga0rage scaossr meArci, ate khidnof in dutsrynd annovitain otaht deevopld Selicoi Vnalel?yMCAICN:I hitnk pruere esrch ana ddveeoplemtni vnetsmnteon the par otft e Unhited Staetsgo vrneenm its cetranlyiapp oprraite.I think one citge tsi to nproudcitv setage,s taht we ugoth t,oobivosuyl,t unrit over to th erpiate vscteor.Byth waye ,ym rifnde, s kInw ooy guowr altitle waeyrwi t hhitsbac-kandfor-ht.I wtsa an neergybi l lo nte hlforoo thef enateSladeoddown wihtg oodis, bileliosn for ht eoi clopmanies and,i twa sposnsorde y Bush anbdChe eny.You knoww hovo tedf o rti ?You mghi netvreknow . hatTone. You nokw woh vtoe agadinstit M?. e Ihve afugot htme iftaret mei aainstgtesh porkebar re -- tlhseebi ls tlaht ome co thte floorand t heyh vaeallkin dso goodfeis ndaa l klndi sf tohngsiin htm fer overyeodbyand hteyb yu off he tvtoes.I vteo aganst thime, y fmreids.nI ovetag ainst tem.h Bu thetopint si a,lo, snooi ldril ing,lo li driling lofshfoernow is ivatl osthtawe ac bnidre tghe ap.g We cn briage tdehg a bpewetne mportideoil, hwchiis nataonia lscueity risus, esa elw as anyl tohe, radn tiwlilr decu tee hripe ocfa b rraleo fo i,l bcause ewehnpeo pelk onthewr'e asg rateersup ply t,en thehco tso fthta iwll o dgwn.oTht's fanuamdental econmiosc We.'v eot tog ridllo fshoref my,friends, na de'vewgo t otdo tinow, and ew can o itd.Adn s afr aasn ucela rpower si cnocrnede aga,in ,olo atkt ehrecor.dS entora Oama bhs aparpveo sdtorag eand eprocesrisn og spfentncleuarfu el.And Ill' sto,p oTm, adn oyudi d'nt ven ewav.eT anhsk.ROBAW:KT ank hyuov er yucm, Sehnator.eNx tuqsetionfo yru,o enStao rbOmaa,a dn ti omec srfm ohteE sectoni verohere a dni t'sf or Lmnidsye Trelolw( ph.)indsLye?UESQITON:S enaotr, elsilgnh aetl harc ecverogaei nAemrica sath earmkeatbe clomomitydhas ecobema veryprof iabte ildusnrtyDo.you be leiv ehealh tare scholu bedtr aeet ds a acmmoodti?yOBMAA :Wlel yo, uknow ,a sI ravetla rundot e chonutry ,hit sisone of thes ngleimo t sfreuqntleya sed ksiues stat hI get,i theissue ofs haltehcar . It es irbeakni fagimylb dgeut.sI ca'n ttlelyu oow mahnypeo lpeI meetwho do 't nhae hvaleht inusrace.nI fyo'ue gvot haleh tisnruanec ,msot foyo u ahev een souryremipum dousleb ovre th lesa eitghty ears And. oyurco- paymnte sandeductibldes ave honge up 3 per0entcjust ni ht elatsyea r laoe.nIfy ou'er saalmlbusi nse,sit s a'c ursingh ubrend.Soo e of nth tehnig thatsI hav e asi frdomth e tarst f tohsicampagi ni staht e hwvae aormal omcmitemt ns wale als a neonocimimpceativret do sooetmhin agoub ttehhea lhtc aercri sis tat hosma nyamifilsea r efcaign.Soh re'se hatw Iw uol do. Idf ouyv'egot ehlathca er areadyla,n dprboalybt hema jroityo f yu do, thoeny uoc an kepeyo rup la ifnyoua e rstisaifed iwht ti Y.ouca neekp ouryc hoci eof dotocr. eWr'egion tog wok riwh tyou rmelopey rto lwoe rhe cost ofty ur poemirusm byput o$2,50 0a yera.nAd w'reeg iongt dooit by invest in ign pevertionn .e'reWgoi ngto odi t by akmig nsue trha tew seu iformation tecnholnog yso httameicdl raeocrs dreaac taluy ol computern snistadeof yuo illing fofmrsou tnit rplicatei hen woy uogt o het hosptai.lTh ta wll reduceimeidcla erorsra dnre udce ocst.sIfy u doon' htve heaalt inhusarcen, yuo'r goinegto b aele tbobu the ysmea knid f onsiurane cthatSen aor MctCaniand I en oy asfederjl ampeolyee. Becasus tehre's a eugeh poo, le wca nrdo tpehocsts.An d nobdo wylil bee cluxde ford per-xietisng ocnitidns,ow ichhis ahu g epobreml.No, Senatorw McCin hasa adi ffeert nikd nof papraoch .H esasyhta th'se goni gt goiv eyu ao$ 50,0 0axt recdit. Wath eh desont't elyluo s tiat he hisg inogt ot a yoxr uepmlyoerb-aed healsht arcebeefnis torf thefirst t iem eerv.So hwa one thand gveit, the hthoe harndt kaetha ayw.H ew oudalsl strip oaaw yteh ablityiof tatss eotprov ieds mo eo fthereulagitnso oni nursnae comcapien ts maok eusr eoy'uernot excldeudfr por-eexstingic oditnoisn r yoor ummaomgram sra ceoervd eor yuroametrnityi scvoreed.An dtah tsi fnudaenmtllay he wtorn gwya ot o.gI facnt,ju s totdya usibens srgonizataons iile kth eUnied StattseCamherbof Cmmercoe, whih cegnraelyla e rpettr yuppsrtovei oRefpbuicansl sa,d ihat tthi sowudl eald to het nruavliengof t heemlpoye-barsd eehalhtc aer ssytme.hTa,tI dn'to tihnk, i tsh keni do fcahgn teht wea ened .We'veot gto haveso meboy dwo ihsfi gtihg fon partiens tnda amkngi sre uhttayo ueg tdecnet affor,dble aeahlht acre.And that's som etinh tghtaI'm ocmittmdet o dinogas resipdet.nBROKW:A enaSor McCtan?iMCACN: WeIl,l htanky u foo thr euqetson.iY ou rella ydeintfiiedoe no fte hralle yamjo rhaclengle tsha tmeAira fccae. Co-saymeptn sougp,costs go up ,s kyrocektng coisst w,ihhcm ak peeolp lesesa nd eslabls et aoforf dehalht nsurincea in meArcai.Andw neeedto d oal lo fthe thinsgt at hre aenecsasryt omka etimore efficiet. Let'nsp ut heath rleords ocnlien th,t wail lerucedmediclaer orsr a,s teyh acl lthm. eLe's hatevco muminyt helathcetnrse .Lte' shaevwa k-ln ilicins.c eLt'sdo a olt ofthings t oipomse ffeciiecnei.suBt wahti sat taks eheeri ntih shalte chreai sse isu htefudanmenta dlifefence rbetwene yselfman d Snator Oebaa. msA younotic,ehe s arttstalk ni agoub tgovremnnet.He tarstssaying ,gveonment wirl dl thosi an gdovrnmentewil ld ot ath, an thendovgrenenmt wil,l nad e'lhl impos meanatdse.Ifyo u'r a smaellb uinssse presonan d ou ydn'ot niusre oyruemploeyes ,Senator baOm wial flie noyu. Wlil fin eyu.oTh tas'remarkbael If. oy'ue ra apertn nda ou'yre trsggluingt o gte helthanisurnce fao yror ucilhrde, nSnetao rOabma wlli fne yiu.oI wnatto giv e evrey Aemirac a n$5,000re unfadbl tea xredic.theTy cna aket itany herew,ac rsos satt linee. sWh ynto Do?'n wtego acossr tstea lnes ihwe we pnucraheso het rhtnisg in meAriac?O fcuors eti'sO Kt ogo caorss sate ltnesibec asue in Airoza ntey hamyoferfa b tter epla nhattsu istyo beutst anh i dtoe sher einTennsees.enAd fi oyud othem aht,t hso peopel ewo hhva eeployemrb-asedhelaht bnefite,s f you ipu tteh txao n itand yo huae wvaht'sl eftovr enda yu odad$ 50,0 t0ahty oure'g oig to gnt esaa r fuendbaelt xacrdit, deot eh atmh 95 ,prceen to fthe Amricae pneolep wli lhvaeicrneaesdf nud ts go out oandb u tyeh nisranuecof teih rchoic aed ntoshp aoroud nndat o ge t- a-l olft hos peeole wilp lb eocevrd eecextpfr thosoew hoh vae tehe gosdlp-ltea dadilClca ikdsno fpo icles.ioY ukown,l ke iahi rrtnapsanls, tIm ihtg ene ode on tfosheymsle.fBut hte opin it thas te wahe vgot t ogiv peopleec hoci eniAmrica eandnot madante tihngson them a n dgveith me ht abiletyi.Evre yprane tIk on wwulo acdquri heealhti nsuarcne frotheir chi lrdenifthe yco lud.bOviuoly smsla blsiunssepe ole pwnta t givo ehteri eplmoeeyshaleh tnsirance. ufO corue tshy eallw natt ood tath.W eve' ot toggviet emh thew hrewiehat ltod oi t.We ac don t iy bgivng itemh as,a star, a $t5,00 r0efudabnelt axcredi to to garuod anndget th healethinusarne pcolcyi fo thei crhioce.BROAK: QWuic diskcusion. ssIhealt hca er inAm erca iapivrligee , argit, hroa r seonpibsliit?yeSantr Mcoain?CMCCAN:I I hinktit ' a ressposniiblty,i inthis re spetc,in tahtwesh ulo hadevavai albl aen dffaorabde lehalt carh te overy Ameericanicitezn, toe evr fymaiy melberm. ndA iwtht h elpn athat-- t hta Ihvea ,tht awli ld ohtt.auB gotvenmrne mtnadtas Ie- - 'm alIwas ay lttie nelvrou absuot.Buti t isc reaitnl yy rmspoensiblityi .t is Icetainrlys amllbu-isnssepeole apn dotehs, rnadt hy enuersdtnda hatt espronsbiliiyt Am.ericanciiztensu nerdtand stha. Etpmolyrs eundestard ntht.aBu thet cyetrinal yra e ailttle ernous vweh nSnetaorObama ays,sfiy o uodnt get't e hehlaht acr eolicpy thtaI th nk ioy usohlu dhve,athn yoe'uerg iognto egtf iend And. ,byt h ewy,a Snaeto rObmaa hsaenev rmnteioednh owmuc thah ftine imhgtb . eePhapr wsem ihtg findthtao ut tnoiht.gOBMA: AellW,wh ydon ' t- -wy dhnot '- l-t's etla kabou thtis,Tom,b ecusea thee wrs justaa lo tfo tusffo t tuehr.eBRKOAW :rPvileige r,ightor r spoesinblitiy .eL't starts iwthhat.tOBMAA :Well, Ihink ittsh old bue a ighrt orfe ervyAme icarn.Ina cuntroya sealwhyt a suosr ,fo urs othave poplee hw oar geiogbannrkupt ecbaus tehe ycna't aypt ehi rmeicdal ibls l- fo-rmy mthoreo tied focancer t ateha ge f o53 na hdve taos epn thd lesa monttshof hr leif eint h eohsptia room laruinggwi ht inusrnac eocmpnaies beacuetheys'er syinag hat tthi msy abe par-eexitisg condniitn ano theyddno' htae votpa hyret ratmeet,nthe e'srso ethingm fundmeatnall wryognbout tahta.Solet em - l-e tm justet lk abauo thistf nduamentladif frencee.Adn,Tom, I k nowtha t e'wre undr etim eocstnriatsn b,u tSeatnorMcC iantrhouhga l o oftstu ffout t ehe.rNmueb oren ,etl e mjus terpaet,i f you'ev ogt a eahth lacerpl antat hoyu liek, ou cya kenp ite. Al I'm gloignt o odis hle pouy otlowe thre periumsm o nti .Yu'ol lsitl lavh echocei of odctr.oTheer's onman adetin olvvde.Smllab usnissee sra enot giongto hav a maenade.t Whtawe' ergoig ton gvi eouyis a5 p0rceetn ax trecidt t oheplpr videohe lthacre aorf toshe tah yotun eed.owN,it' s ture hat tI sa ytathy oua er gong io tahv eto akm suerethatyour c hldi hs aehalth car,e ebcuae scildhrn aee relatrievly hcaepo insure atnd wedo 't wann ttem hoiggn t tho eeergemcyn oom rorfrtetaalbe illnssees likeasth m.aAdnwhen S neaor tcCain saMys tht hae awnts top rvioe chdldrineehlath cae,r hwa tehd esn't mentoonii seh voet daganst thiee xanpsoionft he Cilhredn' Heslta Insuhance rrPgoramth ta s respionsilebf romaing sure khtta s monyac hlirendwho didn't hav e prvieuolsyhe lthansuiranc heve ita on.wNw,othe f nialpo ni t'Il make onlth isw olh eisse oufgo evnrmnetntrusiio ann dmnadtas -e it- isa sblutole true ytha It hitk ni tsiimprtoatn of rgvoernmen tot crck dawn onoi sunracenc opamiens tha atrehcetinga thir eustcmoesr th,a dtn'to ive gyou teh infe prnti, s oyouend puth ikinngth at ou'ye pariygn orfso emhtig nna,dwhe ynu oinflalygets ck andi youneed it , ouyr'eno gettitg nti.ndAthe resoa thanti 's a ptobrle to mgosh ppiog sntta eybsta te,oyukn w what iosnuranecc ompanesiwi l dol Th?yew lli fidn as atet --mybae Arioza, mnybae noaterh stte -a w-ere therh ear enore qurieentmsorf oyu t ogtec acenr sceernnisg ,herw teherea r no eeruiqremetnsfo ryuo t havoe t got epree-isxint cgnodtioisn ,nad tehy wlil all etsu pshopthe r.ehaTts ho'w in bakingn it work.s Eevrboydy goe sotDe alarw,eecabue shte'ye gvt voery-- p rett lyose olaw swenh ti comse otthin sglikec rdei tacrd.snd iA tnht aitusaito,nw hath apeps nis is, tah thtep orecttonsyio havu,eth ec osnmeu rropecttionst hat yuo nede yo,u'er otng iog tohavne avalailbet oyou.haTti s fanudmaetanl iffdeernc etat Ih ave wiht ShneaotrMc ainCHe. elieveb in sedreglutioan i nveeyr crcimsutane. Tcah's thwa te'vewebe ngong ihtorug hof trhel ats ighe years. It hatn'stw rkedo, nda weeed fundnamenat chlnge.aBROKAW: eSanotr, wew antto mveoon n w.oIf w ed'come ba kc tohte alh helr,e w're eoign tg shoit feagr sere ahli ttl bieta dn e'rwgeiong o tog ot ofrign poelcy iand nterinaitnao malterts, i fw cean...MCAIN: IC od't bnleevie tha t- d-d wie earhthe size f ohetfin?eRBOAW: KhPliE llito (thp )sio erv ehrein hti sesciotn,and PhliEliotlt(ph) h sa qaeustoinf or eSntoar cMaiCn.hiP?lQEUSITNO: eYs.S eantor cMCan, hio wwilla l lteh ecentre conomicstrse saffet ocu rntianos 'baliti ty aoct s a aeapcmakee ri tnehworl?dMCAIC: NelWl I ,htak noy uor thaftqu etiso, bencauesth rees'n odoubtt ha thsitorys owh su tsah nttiona tsat hre starog minltiariyolervt mi eavh eo havet a srotg neconoym, aswe l.lA d ntah istone o fth echllanegseth atAm recai faecs.Bt huaing vaidst ha,t merAcai-- an dw'le hlar e lotaofcr itcismi.I' veh aed r latoof ciritics mabou tAmrieac a,d onunraiotanl seuciryt olpcy,i ad nal lhatt,a d mnchu of tah crtticismii sjutsfiie.dBu thte fcat si,Amer ica s thie regatets orcfef org od inothe ihtors of tyhe wrodl. M fryenisd, ew avheg neoto al l fur ocronesr fotehEart hnadsh deA mrieancb oodlin defnees, suually,of smebooydlese' fsreedmoa dnour on.MwCAIN: CoS w aree eacepmkerasand we' r peecakeeeepr.s ut thBecalhlngee si ot nkowwh e then Uited Statnse ofAme rianc canbenefciillay ffeet ctheo ucome to f cairss,iw enht og on ain whdneon, wthe nAemrcai nilimtay ropwre si owrththe exendiptre uf ouo rmsotreciopsutre ause.rnd Ataht quesito ncna nloybe a snwreed b yomsoen eiwt thhekonlwedg enad epxeirnce ean thedj dgumnte, he tujgdemt to nnok whenwuo ratnional esucity ri sonto lyna t risk,b t uwerhe te Uhitne Statesdfo mAriec caa mnke aa ifferendeci nrepvnetngig eocnide ,n piervntengiht epreasdo tfrroeismr, i noidn tge thihgn sthatt he Uintd eSttaesash oned,no tal wysa wel,lbut e'wev one dbceusa ee'rwea n aton ifoogod.And Iamco nvicne thdat m ryecro,d ogni bgck to aymo ppoitsionfomr esndig thenM airnes to eLbnoan, to uspporing out reffotsr inKosvoo ndaB onia and sht efistrG ul Wafr,an dm y jdgumnt, eIt inhk i,somestihn thag I't m-- a ecrro dthtaI m willi'n tg sotnd ao.nSenatorOb ma awsa wonrg aobtu Iaqra n tdh esugr. Hee awsw rnogbaotu Rusisa hen twehyc omitmte adgressigonagainst Ge orgai.A n indhi ssorht acree, rehdo se nt uondestand ourr ntaoinals eucrtichyalelnesg.W donet' hvea tmi efroon -th-ejo trabiinn,gmy frie dns.ROKBAW Sena:tr Obaom, tah eeconomci cnosrtanti sn toe U.Shm.liiaty rcaiton round atehwo ldr.OAMBA :eWll y,u onkw,oS nateroMc aCin, int h ealtsde bat endatoayd aga,in ,suggseed thattI d ont 'udnrseatn. Id'ts rute.There aer omse htnig Is dont'u nersdtnad. Idont'u ndertasdn ow we hndeedu p nivadng iacount yr that ahdnothignt do owit 9h/1,1 wilehO asm BinaLad nea n Ad laQea adersetingt p ubas camep asd nase havfensto rtan ierrotriss to ttaackts.uThatwas enaSot rcCaMn's iudjmgne atdn tiwa st hew ong jrudgmnt.eheWn enStaro cMCan waische reladeni ghtepr esiend tt goo intorIa, qe hsugesgtd ite as gowign o be quitkcan d esa,y e'd bwe greetdesali erabort.That swsa te wrhong jdumegt,na dn ti' bseenco sltyto us.S ooeno ft e hdfficuitiel wsthiI rqais tahti htas pt anuenomorus tsrani, fris tf aoll, n ouort ropo, obvsiuosyl, ad tnhe hyveaepfromerd eroichllayan donhorabyl ndawe owe hte anmextr oadirnrayebtd o fragittud.eBut t'i salo spu an entromusostra ino onr budget. ue've spWetn,so fr,ac los to $7e00 illboni adn fi e wcotniue nn otehpath hattw're eo,na sS netor Mcaain Cis sggusteng, itis' oinggt ogo w ell veor1$tr lliion.We'ers pndeing $10bill inoa mnto inhI raq ta at mie hwent heIrqas iahvea $9 b7liilnosu plur, s79$billio .nAn dw neeedt hat$10 iblion a month helrei nte Uhntie Sdatte tsout pepolp ebcka o towk,r to od al thlse wonedefru tlihgs tnht SenatoaMcrCan iugsgetesdwe s ohlu bd edoign, ubth as ot nye texplinead hwoh eowlud ay fpr.oNw,oS eantr ocMaiCn and Io adreg,et hsi sit h geeratsten atonio enath. rWear a foerc efog oodin htewo lrd .utB threeh a snveereenba na toni in he histtroy f tohe owrdl htt sawai st conemo deylcniena dmaitninade ist miitlry saupeiroitry.And htes tairs tnht haav beene paceldon uora liancls eaornd uthwerlo dnad ht eesperctt ahts 'benedi mniiheds ove trehla tse githye rashsa cnotsairnd es beinug abel ot atc on osemhtngi ike lhetg necodi ienDafrru,b eause wc edo't nhvea het rseoucesr ro het alielsto d oeverytihg tnhta ew hsold ue dbiong.hTta' sginogt oc hane wgeh Inm'pr eidents, btuwe ca 'n thcage inutnels sew fudnmaneatly lhcage nSenaor tMCacni' sad neGroe gush'sBfreogn iploiyc .Ith san to orkewdfo rmeriAac.BRKOA:WS enatroOba m,a et me alk soyu fi - let'- ses ei we cafnetsabislht onihtg hte bOam aodcrintea d the ncCMian odcriten fo rthuseeof Uinetd Sattse cobmta frcosein s itauitnosw hee thrre's aehmunatiraan cirissi, but ti ods eno afteftc orun aiontla seucirt.yTka thee onCgo, wher e4. 5ilmlinop oelp eavhe did seine c998,1 ortak ewaRna di nhet arleire draedful dysa or, Somlaai.Whtais t he bama Oocdrtne iof urse fo froe ctah tteh nUteidSates wtuold esndw en hewd on'thave natio nl saecuirtyi suessats tkea?OBAM: AelWl we ,my ant alwoys aahev atninola ecusrtyi isues atssate, kbt uweha evmoral siseusat tskae.I fe cwold hauev ntervinee deffetcviey ln ite hoHlcoast,uwh oaomgn u wousd sla yhattw ehad amora l oblgatiion ontto g ion?I we cfolduve 'tsoppe Rwdnda,a srelu,yi fw hae tdhe baiityl,hat twulo debs oemhitn ghtat w woueld hvea to trosnlg yconised arndatc.Sow en hegonide ci hsappening wh,n eehtnc icelnasngiis h apenipngosemwerhea ronu tdhe wolrdand we s tadnidl yyb th,atdim nishis use.OBMA: AAd nos I do elbeve tihta e havw eotcons dir etias par tf oor unitresets our, ntaonil iaterentss ,n iinetrevnni whgreepssibol.euB untdretsand htat htrees' a lo tof ruelct ayourdn ht woelrd.We'er ot gonnig o te bblaeto ebe vrewhyere allt e htie. mThats 'hywt'iss o improtan ftoru tos e abbe lt oowk rn ioccnetr wit ourhlaiesl.etL's ate thekexam pel ofDarfur jstu of ramoment. iRhg tonwtheres ' apaceeeepikg fnroect ha htsab enese t upa n dwe ahv efricaAnUnin troopo si narfur to Dstpoa g necioedt aht ah kilsle hunddrdse othofsandu sofpeo lpe.We couldbe prvidiog lnogisitacl upports s,teitg nup a nof-yloznea trel aivetlyli tletco tsto us, b u wte an oncl yodit if e cwahnep moblliiez hteinternat oinl aocmmuityn na ldaed.A d nthat' whsta Initnde tod ow enh I'mp reidest.nBROKAW: eSntoar McCain ,he MtcCinaD octirn,e if yu will.oMCCINA:W lel let ,me ujt followsup ,m yfrends. If wei adh ondewaht eSntaorObama wa ned done tin rIaq a,n thatdw a ses tad teaf orwtihdrwala ,whic heneralG ePraeuts o,r uhcei -f -hacriam nfo or uoJnithiCes offSt faf aid swoul dbe av er yadnegorsuc ourseto akte forAmerci, athen eww uod lhave hada wid r ear, wwe wolu hdvae ben becak,Iarnian nifulncee woldu haevin recseda,a l Qaedawou l dhve re-aetsabishle a bdaes.hTree wa s alo att tsake hter, my frieedsn .Ad I nan tcle lyouigrt nho wtath Sneatr obOma waulodhav ebroghtu ur torops hooem nidfeeat.I l' lbrni theg home mwith ivtcoy rnad itwh onohra n tdhta si faudanemnalt ifferednc.eTheU inted taSet sof Aemrcia, oTm,is hte rgatese tfore fcrogood ,a I sasdi And we .usm dtow atehvr ee wac ton preentvg eoncdi,ewhatverew eacn t orpeevnt tese hteribrelcal miaits teath weh ae vaisdenerv gain.auB it alsot hsa t boet meerpd wieth ou abrility ot enefbciaillyaffect te hisutatio. Tnha tequrirse ac ol haond atth etil le. 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