，下午8时04分
29" Nimbus wheel has been making funny noises when I ride. I want
to tighten up the spokes and true up the wheel. I have a spoke
tension gauge from Park. Now for the key questions: what tension
should I aim for with the wheel? I am not sure who manufactures the
rim-UDC? I do not find any advice on spoke tensioning for this rim
in particular or for most rims in general. Should I just shoot for
120 kgf? Is that too high or too low? Is there are general
guideline for
rims?好吧，我29“Nimbus的车轮一直奇怪的杂音，当我骑我想收紧了车轮辐条和真实的我从公园以张力计现在到了关键问题：。。。我的目标是什么张力应为与车轮？我不知道谁制造了边缘，华联发展集团呢？我没有找到任何意见，特别是讲了这个边缘或在最一般的轮辋张。我是不是应该为120公斤力拍摄？是不是过高或过低低难道是有钢圈的总方针？
I have the same question about 36" wheels, which
are even less common. How much tension do you want in the spokes?
My impression is that more is better--until the rim fails. :( I
would appreciate some numbers from people with experience working
on unicycle wheels. (Corbin?)
。？我有大约36“轮，这是更常见的同一个问题多少你在紧张的辐条希望我的印象是，更多的是更好的 -
直到边缘失败：（我将非常高兴与人的一些数字。独轮车轮子上的工作经验。（科尔宾？）
Thank you.谢谢。
JesseG JesseG
, 09:19 PM
，下午9点19分
This is totally non-intuitive, but if spoke
tension is even, and if it's not low enough that any spokes go
slack during use, then spoke tension makes NO difference in wheel
stiffness.这完全是不直观的，但如果以张力均匀，如果它不是足够低，在使用过程中的任何辐条去松弛，然后以张力使NO的车轮刚度差异。
This is on the authority of machine testing and
the theory of Jobst
Brandt.这是对机器的权威机构检测和因为Jobst布氏理论。
I know, weird.我知道，奇怪。
Ok, my 29" Nimbus wheel has been making funny
noises when I ride. I want to tighten up the spokes and true up the
wheel. I have a spoke tension gauge from Park. Now for the key
questions: what tension should I aim for with the wheel? I am not
sure who manufactures the rim-UDC? I do not find any advice on
spoke tensioning for this rim in particular or for most rims in
general. Should I just shoot for 120 kgf? Is that too high or too
low? Is there are general guideline for
rims?好吧，我29“Nimbus的车轮一直奇怪的杂音，当我骑我想收紧了车轮辐条和真实的我从公园以张力计现在到了关键问题：。。。我的目标是什么张力应为与车轮？我不知道谁制造了边缘，华联发展集团呢？我没有找到任何意见，特别是讲了这个边缘或在最一般的轮辋张。我是不是应该为120公斤力拍摄？是不是过高或过低低难道是有钢圈的总方针？
I have the same question about 36" wheels, which
are even less common. How much tension do you want in the spokes?
My impression is that more is better--until the rim fails. :( I
would appreciate some numbers from people with experience working
on unicycle wheels. (Corbin?)
。？我有大约36“轮，这是更常见的同一个问题多少你在紧张的辐条希望我的印象是，更多的是更好的 -
直到边缘失败：（我将非常高兴与人的一些数字。独轮车轮子上的工作经验。（科尔宾？）
Thank you.谢谢。
scott ttocs斯科特ttocs
, 01:14 AM
，上午01时14
Hi Jesse,嗨杰西，
Thank you for the reply.谢谢你的答复。
I know that the tension should be
even.我知道，应该会更紧张。 My
impression is high tension is better than low
tension.我的印象是高压比低压更好。 The
problem is that very high tension is reported to lead to rim
failure.问题是非常高的张力报道导致失败的边缘。 Someone
posted a nice potato-chip ("potato crisp" for the UK crowd) shaped
wheel that looks like it had this
problem.有人发布了一条漂亮的土豆片（“土豆脆”为英国观众）形车轮看起来有这个问题。
I am looking for some guidelines for limits on
the tension.我寻找的紧张局势限制一些指导原则。
jtrops jtrops
, 05:48 AM
，上午05时48分
I have built many (over a hundred and then some)
bicycle wheels, and now a couple of uni
wheels.我建立了很多（超过一百，然后一些）自行车轮，现在是单轮夫妇。
Tension should be even.张力应均匀。
The actual tension is probably not that important
once the rim is straight, round, and centered between the
bearings/lock
nuts.实际的紧张可能并不重要，一旦边缘是直线，圆之间，以及轴承/锁紧螺母中心。
If the wheel is over tensioned it can be very
hard to true, or maintain later.如果车轮是在张可很难真实，或维持更高。
If you find that you are truing your wheel often
it most likely needs more
tension.如果你发现你修整你的车轮往往最有可能需要更多的紧张局势。
When tensioning a wheel it is important that you
do it incrementally and in many
revolutions.当张紧轮，重要的是你做增量，在许多革命。 If you
simply tighten the nippels sequentially around the wheel it can
cause the wheel to get too tight before you realize
it.如果你只需拧左右车轮的nippels顺序它可能会导致车轮太紧张，然后实现它。
I use the 3x3 method.我用的是3 & 3的方法。
Starting at the valve stem you give a quarter
turn, and then count three spokes and tighten a quarter turn, and
so on around the
wheel.阀杆日开始，你给一个四分之一转，再算上三辐条和加强四分之一转，因此左右车轮上。
When you get back to the valve stem you start
with the second spoke from the valve stem and continue the same
way, and on the third pass you start with the third spoke from the
stem.当您回到您启动阀杆与第二阀杆上发表演讲，并继续以同样的方式，并在第三关你的第三个开始从阀杆发言。
After three revolutions of the wheel you will
have tightened all of the spokes in the
wheel.经过三年的车轮转，你会收紧中的所有车轮的辐条。 If you
do it right you will have to repeat this a few times to get good
tension.如果你这样做的权利，你将不得不重复这几次获得良好的紧张局势。
Good luck.祝你好运。
scott ttocs斯科特ttocs
, 05:57 AM
，上午05点57分
Hi Jerry,您好杰里，
Thank you for the advice.谢谢您的建议。
I will take up the tension gradually after I true
it.我会逐步它之后，我真紧张。
corbin科尔宾
, 03:53 PM
，下午3点53分
I'll have to look up what tension I used...I
can't recall what it is off the top of my
head.我要看看我用了一下紧张...我不记得是什么消息，我的头顶。 I didn't
use 120 kgf for my wheel, but something
lower.我没有用我的车轮120公斤力，但一些低。
My last 36er wheel build was my first that I
built all by myself (I bought the same park tool tension gauge --
it works great!).我的最后36er轮建设是我第一次，我自己建造的全部（我买了同样的公园工具张力计 -
它的伟大工程！）。 Prior to that, I had the help of Ken Adelman or
Bronson Silva (
) -- both of which are
experts at building wheels, and taught me how to properly build
them.在此之前，我有肯阿德尔曼或布朗森席尔瓦（）帮助 -
这两者都是在建筑车轮专家，教我如何正确地构建它们。
corbin科尔宾
JesseG JesseG
, 02:34 AM
，上午02时34分
I wish i knew what tension you should use, but my
point in the earlier post is that higher is not necessarily
better.我希望我知道你应该使用什么紧张，但我在以前的职位高一点是，不一定好。
Beyond a certain point (the point at which none
of the spokes ever go slack while you're riding), you're just
asking for equipment failure and strangely, not stiffening the
ALL.超过一定点（该点的辐条都曾经去放松，而你骑），你只是要求对设备故障和奇怪的是，并非在所有的加劲轮。
Anyway.不管怎样。 Hope I'm
not just repeating myself
unnecesarily.希望我不只是在重复自己不必要的。
saskatchewanian
saskatchewanian
, 02:54 AM
，上午02点54分
My understanding was that if your bottom spokes
go slack when just riding around your spoke tension is too
low.我的理解是，如果您的底部辐条去松弛时，只有在你的发言紧张骑太低。
If you release all the stress on your spokes
whenever you are rolling over them you are just asking for them to
break at the elbow due to the repeated tensioning and
untensioning.如果你释放所有的压力你的辐条无论你翻身他们你只是要求他们打破肘部由于反复拉紧和untensioning。
A high tension wheel is definitely stiffer but
may fail easier from an impact since the parts are closer to their
points.高张力轮更严厉的，但肯定是从一个影响可能会失败，因为部分更容易接近他们的突破点。
So a tight wheel should last longer and be
stiffer while a softer build can resist impacts better but will
have greater chance of metal fatigue
failures.因此，一个张紧轮应持续时间更长，而被硬软建设能更好地抵御冲击，但将有更大的金属疲劳破坏的机会。
Try to find a good middle
ground.希望可以找到一个很好的中间地面。
tholub tholub
, 03:25 AM
，上午03点25分
My understanding was that if your bottom spokes
go slack when just riding around your spoke tension is too
low.我的理解是，如果您的底部辐条去松弛时，只有在你的发言紧张骑太低。
If you release all the stress on your spokes
whenever you are rolling over them you are just asking for them to
break at the elbow due to the repeated tensioning and
untensioning.如果你释放所有的压力你的辐条无论你翻身他们你只是要求他们打破肘部由于反复拉紧和untensioning。
A high tension wheel is definitely stiffer but
may fail easier from an impact since the parts are closer to their
points.高张力轮更严厉的，但肯定是从一个影响可能会失败，因为部分更容易接近他们的突破点。
So a tight wheel should last longer and be
stiffer while a softer build can resist impacts better but will
have greater chance of metal fatigue
failures.因此，一个张紧轮应持续时间更长，而被硬软建设能更好地抵御冲击，但将有更大的金属疲劳破坏的机会。
Try to find a good middle
ground.希望可以找到一个很好的中间地面。
I don't think there's anything wrong with a
high-tension wheel, and I've never seen a high-tension wheel fail
from impact in a way that a lower-tension wheel would
survive.我不认为有什么用高张力轮错了，我从来没有见过一个高张力从车轮的方式，以较低的张力轮会存活的影响失败。
The only failure I've personally seen from high
tension is a hub flange failure on a two-cross
wheel.唯一的失败我个人看到的是由高张力对两跨轮毂法兰失败。 For
three-cross or four-cross wheels, that shouldn't be a
problem.三交，四交轮子，这不应该是一个问题。
saskatchewanian
saskatchewanian
, 03:56 AM
，上午3点56
A couple years ago I hit a pot hole while riding
my 27" uni with a skinny tire. three spokes snapped at the elbow
and two broke at the nipple. I built the wheel really tight but the
spokes and nipples were re-used and probably 30 years
old.几年前，我打一个洞，而锅骑一个瘦小的轮胎我的27“单向。抢购在肘部和两个乳头打破了3项辐条。我建立真正的车轮辐条和紧张，但乳头被重新使用，可能30岁。
New modern spokes probably would have been fine
but those old ones were unable to take the sudden
jolt.新型现代辐条很可能会被罚款，但那些老的不能采取突然的震动。 Not sure
what the damage would have been if the spokes were a bit looser,
probably more rim damage and less spoke
breakage.不知道什么是破坏本来如果辐条得有点松散，可能是更边缘断裂破坏和少说话。
Generally I build my wheels pretty tight and
think that most bike/unicycle wheels could use a bit of
tightening.一般来说，我建立我的轮子很紧，并认为最自行车/独轮车轮子可以使用紧缩位。
My 36er sure needed it when i got
it.我36er肯定需要它的时候我知道了。
critter克里特尔
, 05:19 AM
，上午05时19分
I just replaced a spoke
today.我刚刚更换了今天发言。 It's on
my 2006 KH 29''.它是在我2006年29 ''因次周波数kh。
I can't quite figure out
why.我不能完全弄清楚为什么。 The bike
shop guys thinks that I will eventually have to replace all the
spokes because their not stainless
steel.自行车店家伙认为我最终将取代所有的辐条，因为他们不不锈钢。
I have now replaced 7 spokes through the last
couple years.我现在已经取代了过去几年通过7辐条。 I see
rusty spots on the spoke crossings.我看到过路的发言生锈点。
But Don't fix it until it
breaks.但不解决它，直到它打破。
But I tighten the spokes by
sound.但我通过声音拧紧辐条。 I like
to hear a slightly high pitch(ping).我喜欢听到稍高间距（平）。
Then I like the spokes to all the same
sound.然后，我喜欢所有的辐条一样的声音。 I would
be better at it, if I wasn't tone
deaf.我会在它好，如果我不是五音不全。
What musical note is the best
tension?什么音符是最好的紧张局势？ doo ray
me far so la tea doo?我这么远光斗茶斗啦？
saskatchewanian
saskatchewanian
, 05:36 AM
，上午05时36
What musical note is the best
tension?什么音符是最好的紧张局势？ doo ray
me far so la tea doo?我这么远光斗茶斗啦？
I found a article on tensioning by key years
ago.我发现关键年前由张一的文章。 fatter
spokes and longer spokes will make a lower pitched sound than
skinner or shorter spokes at the same
tension.胖辐条和更长的辐条将在相同的紧张局势比斯金纳或更短辐条降低音调的声音。
I have no idea what note you should be aiming for
but evenness is the most important
factor.我不知道你应该注意什么瞄准，但均匀性是最重要的因素。
jtrops jtrops
, 02:18 PM
，下午2点18分
So, a bike shop guy says stainless is
stronger.因此，自行车店家伙说不锈钢更强。 The
understanding used to be that the strongest wheels were built with
galvanized spokes.据了解过去，最强的车轮辐条用镀锌建成。
Stainless ones were prettier, and didn't rust,
but weaker.不锈钢的是漂亮，不生锈，但较弱。
We even had DT galvanized spokes back
then.我们甚至有dt的镀锌辐条当时的情况。 Maybe
the alloys they are using are better
now.也许他们正在使用的合金是现在好多了。
madmattunipro madmattunipro
, 06:48 PM
，下午6时48分
At UBI they teach 100 kgf for non disc wheels,
and 110kgf for disc brake wheels, due to the large rotational
forces of a disc
brake.在100公斤力充氧他们教非盘式车轮，并110kgf的盘式制动器车轮，由于大型旋转盘式制动器的力量。
Personally for my uni I shoot for
110ish.单本人亲自为我拍110ish。 You
aren't necessarily doing yourself too many favours going above
that, because eventually the rim will
fail.你是不是一定这样做有利于自己太多上面去，由于RIM将最终失败。
scott ttocs斯科特ttocs
, 07:10 PM
，下午7时10分
madmattunipro, madmattunipro，
Thank you for the specific
answer.谢谢你具体的答复。 110 kgf
sounds like a reasonable number.
110公斤力听起来像一个合理的数目。
I thought unicycle wheels might be hire tension
because they have stronger rims to support the
tension.我想可能是独轮车车轮聘请紧张关系，因为他们有较强的轮辋支持的紧张局势。
From my reading I had thought that most all of
the strength in a bike wheel came from the
tension.从我的阅读我曾认为，在大部分的自行车车轮强度的所有紧张的情绪来了。
I am also a bit confused why some unicycle wheels
use 13 and 12 Gauge spokes if they are not being tensioned any more
than a normal 14 (or smaller) gauge bike
spoke.我也困惑，为什么有些独轮车车轮使用13和12号辐条，如果他们不被任何非正常张14（或更小）规范自行车更讲了一下。
tholub tholub
, 07:32 PM
，下午7点32分
madmattunipro, madmattunipro，
Thank you for the specific
answer.谢谢你具体的答复。 110 kgf
sounds like a reasonable number.
110公斤力听起来像一个合理的数目。
I thought unicycle wheels might be hire tension
because they have stronger rims to support the
tension.我想可能是独轮车车轮聘请紧张关系，因为他们有较强的轮辋支持的紧张局势。
From my reading I had thought that most all of
the strength in a bike wheel came from the
tension.从我的阅读我曾认为，在大部分的自行车车轮强度的所有紧张的情绪来了。
I am also a bit confused why some unicycle wheels
use 13 and 12 Gauge spokes if they are not being tensioned any more
than a normal 14 (or smaller) gauge bike
spoke.我也困惑，为什么有些独轮车车轮使用13和12号辐条，如果他们不被任何非正常张14（或更小）规范自行车更讲了一下。
I don't think the heavier spokes make a stronger
wheel.我不认为要更重辐条车轮。 You're
right that the strength comes mostly from the
tension.你说的没错，力量主要来自紧张。
madmattunipro madmattunipro
, 08:07 AM
，上午08时07分
Strength comes from proper tension, evenly
distributed through the spokes.力量来自适当的张力均匀分布，通过辐条。
If spokes are loose they break becasue they flex,
typically at the elbow.如果辐条是松散的，他们是因为他们的Flex，通常在肘部休息。
Too much tension- there is no exact number
because it depends on the rim quality and design- and you will warp
the rim and cause the wheel to become
unstable.过分紧张，也没有确切的数字，因为它的边缘质量，取决于设计，你会变形的轮辋，并导致不稳定。
Higher gauge spokes are stronger, simply because
they are thicker, however, if they are simple straight gauge
spokes, you can't get the same responsive build out of them as a
double butted(DD) or triple butted (3D)
spoke.高等教育评估辐条都强，只是因为他们更厚，但是，如果它们是简单的直辐条衡量，则无法得到相同的响应，他们建立了一个双抽（DD）或三对接（3D）的发言。
Butted spokes place thicker material in elbow and
the threads, where a spoke is most prone to breakage, while still
allowing a thinner section in the middle so the spoke can stretch
and rebound, keeping the wheel active so it can absorb
impacts.对接辐条放在肘部和线程，其中一个发言是最容易断裂，同时还允许这样的发言，中间部分可伸展和较薄的反弹，保持车轮积极影响，因此可以吸收较厚的材料。
If you want to know more about spoked wheels and
all the theory behind them, The Art of Wheelbuilding by Gerd
Schraner, or The Bicycle Wheel by Jobst Brandt are great
resources.如果你想知道所有的辐条车轮和他们背后的理论多，由格尔德Schraner艺术Wheelbuilding，或在自行车轮子由因为Jobst勃兰特是伟大的资源。
corbin科尔宾
, 03:53 AM
日，上午3点53
I use 110-120
kgf.我重建焦化轮今天我用110-120公斤力。 On the
Park Tool, I was going for number 24-25 (most were
25).在公园工具，我就是要数24-25（大部分为25）。
corbin科尔宾
madmattunipro madmattunipro
, 06:58 AM
日，上午06时58分
I would imagine it would be a bit of a task to
stress relieve a coker
wheel.我会想象这将是一个任务，强调解除焦化轮位。
Assuming a consistant build I would think that
tension should give a great long lasting build, keep us updated on
rides.假设一致的建设我认为应该给一个伟大的紧张持久的建设，使我们对如何骑更新。
已投稿到：
以上网友发言只代表其个人观点，不代表新浪网的观点或立场。请教辐条张力的问题，过大是否伤圈？
平路骑行一段时间
不会 松了反而不好 反而会断& &咱们的车，的辐条本来就要比普通自行车紧的，要紧很多。
你说的是，问题是现在张力大了很多，我就怕跑烂路整体的崩断。
松了紧了都不好吧，应该有一个范围的。要么去车店用张力计量下。
就怕半路崩啊，上次有车友出长途，后轮碟刹侧断了一根，硬是顶到回家才换。
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