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More info about DTS-HD plugin
this new plugin sounds very promising! However, I'm unsure what kind of files
I would feed into foobar. Do I mount a BluRay and let foobar open it? Or is
DTS-HD/DTS-MA a format that would be found in a specific container (like DTS
inside of WAV)? If so, what extension would it have? Thank you in advance for
your time!&
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You have to demux DTS-HD (usually it's DTS-HD Master Audio) soundtrack from
BD. Then change file extention to .DTSHD or .DTSMA and feed it into foobar.
Should play DTS96/24 from DVD-Video discs as well.&
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Thanks for the info! That's what I thought more or less... I had tried a DTS-
HD track at 24/48 but with extension .dts. Curiously enough, it was decoded by
kode's dts decoder with a fixed bitrate showing around 1980 kbps with the
codec being shown as "DTS". That plugin also allows tagging directly to files.
I've changed the extension to .dtshd and now the statusbar correctly shows the
variable bitrate and the codec "DTS-HD".&
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Hi Manisiutkin,
First of all, thank you very much for your great foobat plugins. I think they
have revolutionized the way of listenning at HD-audio on PC.
In my preliminary tests I noticed that your DTS-HD plugin (v0.1.2) truncated
the audio (5.1 24/96 actually)
with ca. 2 secs and the conversion of surround channels seemed not to be bit
identical. However, I might be wrong with the latter one.
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Thank you for pointing that out. In my testing decoder added 2048 zero samples
before track and truncated one second at the end of the track. You are right
about surround channels. They are -3dB of originals. When volumes are
normalized they look identical.&
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The same here (2048 zero samples / -3.01 dB for S channels) except for the
truncation length which is 1.92 sec in my case. I guess this depends on the
track length and/or the audio fomat (channel nos., resolution).&
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Could you also have a look at tagging, please? In my tests, the DTS decoder by
kode was able to tag the file with extension .dts. When I changed the
extension to .dtshd, the file was still being decoded, but not taggable. It
would be great if both plugins could use a compatible way of tagging (at the
end of the file).&
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I've added tagging. The other issues are hard to resolve by now because I
don't have DTS-HD sources.&
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Do you plan to add playback of "Dolby TrueHD" also?&
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No, I don't:). foo_input_dvda 0.4.1 already does this.&
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I approve.&
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Thank you very much for your wonderful work firstly....but I have some problem
with DTS-HD MA extracted in full resolution with tsmuxer. I have changed the
extension of the file to .dtsma but on playback it shows variable bitrate,
DTS-HD but encoding is lossy not lossless as it supposed to be for this
format. I know for 100% that this file is lossless DTS-HD MA. Thank you for
your answer and help.&
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Could you provide me with short sample (1-2 min) of this track? Will try to
see what's going on. How you've figured out that
this track played lossy?&
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Thank you for your quick reply. I used free sample from this site:
concretely Terminator 2
(Lossless) DTS-HD MA 5.1 extracted with tsmuxer (shows correct info about
sound DTS HD MA 5.1). I was just curious if it's working and yes it was
working in high resolution after changing the extension to .dtsma but with
lossy compression. Foobar showed lossy decoding of DTS HD file not DTS HD MA.
I think that DTS HD even in high resolution is still lossy only DTS HD MA is
lossless so maybe wrong detection of plugin? Maybe I'm wrong ....surely I must
try more samples to see if I can get lossless decoding. Thanks again for your
help and work...and of course sorry for my English. ;)&
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I've downloaded that file to see what's going on, and indeed, foobar shows it
as lossy in the file properties. This could have 2 meanings. Since DTS-MA/HD
is comprised of 2 streams, the original lossy core and the lossless
difference, either It's only a cosmetic problem and foobar only shows the
lossy part, or foobar does indeed only play the lossy part.
However, I've noticed that the length of multi-channel files is reported
incorrectly in the playlist (ColumnsUI). When the file starts playing, foobar
will re-adjust the length of the file in the statusbar after a while. The
length of stereo files is always reported correctly.&
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Actually, length is reported incorrectly on stereo files as well, but is
corrected downwards when playing instead of upwards like in mc files..&
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The situation with this plugin is quite simple: it's built like thin wrapper
around proprietary DTS decoder and doesn't care what DTS it decodes. It simply
doesn't distinguish between DTS-HD / DTS-HD MA. So, any stream type will be
displayed like "DTS-HD/lossy". Actual decoding should be lossless for DTS-HD
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Thank you for explanation and you help.&
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